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Carp Angling World Championship - St Lawrence River September 2011

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With the 2009 season wrapped up Kathy and I will have a bit of down time to focus on the big event in 2 years. I spent a week there during the same time we'll be holding the event 2011 just a few weeks ago. Should be enough pegs for 125-150 pairs. I'll be back again in September 2010 for a couple of weeks firming up peg locations and fishing some of them. (anyone wanting to join us is welcome) Goal is to have the peg possibilities on-line a better part of a year in advance.

I plan on going to Austria in December to meet with other country ICFA reps to get a feel for how many pairs/teams they would like allocated to their country.

One goal is to allow for as many countries to be represented as possible.

That said with the USA being the host country we want to make sure anyone interested representing the USA has their name on the preliminary list. So far we are up to 80+ pairs from around the globe that have contacted us to be on the registration list.

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We will send everyone on the list an email and make it public knowledge(Carpworld) about the number of teams allocated per country after Jan. 1 2010. Those pairs/teams requesting a place will have until July 1, 2010 to get their $500 depost per pair in to secure their reserved spot. Any unclaimed positions are then released on a first come first serve basis. Cost will be $2500 per pair just like in 2005. Remainder amount will be due by March 31, 2011. After that if their is a waiting list those people will be offered the open positions.

To make things a bit less confusing we are referrring a Pair as a 2-man team and a Team as a set of 3 pairs that will make a country and/or sponsored team.

We will also need a huge team of Head Marshals(15-20) and Weigh Masters(40-60). If you are interested in that please contact us also. You get passes to all the parties that aren't open to the general public.

More details will come out after the first of the year and all of 2010 as they unfold. So we may not have the answers right now to some of the details.

Main point is to make sure we get the word out and have all those wanting to represent the USA have a that opportunity.

I've personally spoke with a great deal of best anglers around the world that plan on attending. Looks like it will be a fantastic event so don't miss out by participating or being part of the event team.

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Are there any U.S. teams being orgainized?? Keeping in mind that a team is six anglers. :rolleyes: Will Big Carp Tackle be sponsoring a Team from the U.S.?

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And remember a US team won the team championship in 2005! :rolleyes: 'Team Capital, USA'

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Are there any U.S. teams being orgainized?? Keeping in mind that a team is six anglers. :o Will Big Carp Tackle be sponsoring a Team from the U.S.?

Tom,

I'll let the USA Teams sort that out-

Pairs and Teams were defined above? You miss that? :yourock:

To make things a bit less confusing we are referrring a Pair as a 2-man team and a Team as a set of 3 pairs that will make a country and/or sponsored team

BCT doesn't sponsor anyone(except me and I'm busy! :rolleyes: ). We leave sponsorship up to the manufacturers goods we retail. :P Not to mention if we did sponsor anglers/teams I'm sure(and rightfully so) cause some concern as a conflict of interest.

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Sounds good Dave, I'm hoping to get a week in next year at about this time as I've yet to fish this River in Autumnal conditions - looking forward to it already

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Sounds good Dave, I'm hoping to get a week in next year at about this time as I've yet to fish this River in Autumnal conditions - looking forward to it already

Marcus,

It would be great to see you and fish with you.

AF Bob said something about organizing a week long $50/$100 each Big 4 fish/move where you want format Winner take all- but I'll let him sort that out! :rolleyes:

The conditions were great when I was there river wise. There is a lot of weed, but it's in the stage where it pulls out easily. Water level was great opening up a lot of bank space.

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We've had a few anglers that reside here in the USA, but were born in another country contact us. Even if you aren't sure which country you want represent let us know you are interested and we'll get you on the list. Which ever way you want to can be sorted out next year.

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Thanks to everyone that sent in a PM or email they plan on being at the CAWC event. Makes planning on our end much easier calculating payouts, etc.

I had a question on the pairs and team and why we do that. Is it required?

Pairs(2-man team) from countries and/or sponsors can form a Team (6 anglers/3 pairs) to represent their country and/or sponsor. If you just received the latest Carpworld magazine you will see "Team Carpworld" from England won yet again(congrats to them for winning a few years in a row now at the WCC). :rolleyes:

Pairs can find other pairs to form a Team. There is no limit on the number of Teams. We plan on capping this off at 150 pairs right now so there can't be more than 50 teams. It isn't a requirement to be on a team either if you just want to fish as an individual pair.

It's just another angle(bragging rights) to add to bigger competitions. It also may help a team aquire sponsorships is where it can help the anglers.

The way we score our Team event is on a point system-

If we end up with 100 pairs the winning pair would receive 100 points. 10th place would receive 90 all the way down to last place receiving 1 point.

As an example for a Team:

Blue Team-

Pair #1 places 10th = 90 points

Pair #2 places 20th = 80 points

Pair #3 places 90th = 10 points

Total 180 points

Red Team-

Pair #1 places 30th = 70 points

Pair #2 places 35th = 65 points

Pair #3 places 40th = 60 points

Total 195 points

Red team would place ahead of the Blue team.

If a 2 Pairs have the exact weight, big fish breaks the tie to determine where they fall in the placement.

As of right now we plan on the winning Team to receive around $10,000 cash prize.

Another question was payouts on places and we have 1s through 8th(maybe 10th) receiving a cash prize. Those numbers are still being massaged, but should be close for places being paid.

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would love to fish the event, but then I would be homeless :) Will talk with you at the TOC about marshalling

I just had an idea for CAG to honor and support the World Cup in the USA this year and further on. How about a CAG tournament in advance of the Cup with a $25.00 entry fee per person, 2 person teams. This would be run by state chairs or members who sign up to do so. This could be a one day event or longer, your choice per state. The proceeds would be used to sponsor an official Team USA and help off set their costs. $5.00 per entry would go to the CAG for cost associated and the rest to an already registered USA team at the World Cup. Initially this would go to a team with it's members who catch the Highest Weight in this Pre-Tournament event. A good warm up for them and it would create interest and publicity for both the CAG and the World Cup. CAG members and TEAM USA MAY FISH ANY STATE THE CHOOSE!!! Members interested in fishing the Cup can practice against members fishing the Cup and both stand out members and venues would be high lighted on the CAG website and others.

This tournament would help develop Tournament fisherman and woman and could eventually establish a fund to allow USA Teams of our best anglers to enter into WCs in other countries.

Many already established tournament series could easily set one in the series as the WC pre-tourney. Newspapers and websites would pick up on the world class significance and promote it with coverage. Future sights for World Class Tournaments would be established and anglers could fish them year round. Some of these sights would pull in vacationers both USA and other countries. Local DNR's looking to boost their budgets would point to these tourneys as increased tourism with Carp as the target species furthering CAG goals.

Make it the same format as WC point system, etc. 5 two person teams minimum and pre-registration with the CAG would be required.

Your thoughts would be appreciated and perhaps this can be put up for a vote if needed. jb

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I think the issue might be fishing the whole Mass, Wadd, Ogden area so close to the start of the CAWC. It would have to take place only a few days before the tourney to ensure competitors weren't travelling from distance twice, so a suitable area would need to be provisioned outside of the 30-odd mile Championship stretch....

Saying that, we'll be fishing the week before over on the Long Sault/Cornwall side of the River, so if something got organised we'd be up for it

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