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#1 robm1093

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 09:58 AM

;) Why catch and relies release?


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Posted 29 December 2010 - 08:09 PM

Well, the question seems straight forward, so, here's my view.

If you don't plan on using a fish as table-fare, why kill it. C&R!

Now, there is a time to remove the fish from the water. That is when your only fishing hole is overstocked with way too many stunted small fish.

Now, I don't speak for anyone else on the forum, this is my opinion.
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Posted 29 December 2010 - 08:47 PM

I agree 100%. Why waste these warrior of a fish that we go to crazy extents to catch. Why not just move smaller fish to other lakes that already have a small population of small fish to give the bigger fish a chance to thrive. C&R will also help preserve more chance for the youth. This is a growing sport and more people are starting to change their minds about carp. I'm all about C&R and protecting the fish, that's my opinion.

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Posted 29 December 2010 - 10:23 PM

It's quite obvious. Look what happens when the meat-eaters take over.

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 07:16 AM

I have practiced CPR since 1998, when I was in Germany. This was not an excepted way to fish because of Old Traditions and Teachings. It raised more than a few eyebrows and also got me a few comments from the governing boards of the clubs that I was a member. As the time went along, some of the other members picked up on it as well. Those that fished with me saw that I was not in the sport for the food, but for the Enjoyment. I agree that some fish should be culled or removed if they are sick and injured. That being said, I released a fish earlier this year that I should have put out its misery. If a fish is Deep Hooked and the hook cannot be removed, I find myself in a dilemma. I would rather not injure the fish more by removing it, but do not want to kill it. The practice of Catch, Photo and Release to catch again another day is engraved deeply into my mind and I employ it when it comes to Carp Fishing! I Love to fish period and also state that if you tell me you are going and do not mind the company, I will say Let’s Go whatever the species and method.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 12:37 PM

There are several reasons for catch and release but the best reason to do this is for your health. There are lots of contaminants in fresh water fish. The board of health tells you that it’s okay to eat fish once a month that is an allowable amount. Although I think if it’s bad for you no amount is allowable, for example that would be like saying it is okay to smoke one pack of cigarette once a month and you won’t have any Health risk, this doesn’t make sense. If you are considering eating fresh water fish then you should read carefully the document below it explains all about the health risk of eating fresh water fish in New York State. Pay attention to the Long Island advisory pages and the Hudson river page. There are some waters that may not be listed because they were not tested this does not mean they are safe and carp may not be listed in some waters because they were not able to catch a one of them for testing. Most waters in Nassau county are not safe to eat fish from because they are all connected by small creeks that are a drainage system for the city streets Storm water, all the storm water drains in the streets connect to the streams that feed the ponds and lakes bringing all kinds of chemicals and contamination in to places like Hempstead lake state park and other small ponds and lakes in Nassau county.Attached File  advispry two.pdf   946.77K   3 downloads


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Posted 23 January 2011 - 01:28 PM

Most waters in Nassau county are not safe to eat fish from because they are all connected by small creeks that are a drainage system for the city streets Storm water, all the storm water drains in the streets connect to the streams that feed the ponds and lakes bringing all kinds of chemicals and contamination in to places like Hempstead lake state park and other small ponds and lakes in Nassau county.Attached File  advispry two.pdf   946.77K   3 downloads


I practice c&r with an occassional p :) bought up with it and wouldn't want to do otherwise (freshwater), i couldn't kill small carp to help thin them out a bit but the rules here are so strict about moving fish that you couldn't move the small ones to somewhwere that would benefit from it,this could also move diseases which is a serious issue and moral dilema.
The part of what Rob says above is typical of the park lakes here and i think what makes it worse is all the substances that get dropped on the roads does not get washed away to regular due to the weather but when it does rain it lifts alot of it in a short time span and goes into the drainage system, not saying that we have to change the infrastructure or give up roads though.
However it does surprise me how many people will still take and eat fish from the "system" and not give a hoot even when they are told by signs or people.
Along time ago i used to fish in the sea and take some of the catch for eating so i'm not squeamish about killing a fish if need be, just rather not do it.

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 01:29 PM

If I didn't catch and release, I'm afraid Franklin wouldn't have any tame carp to catch.

So, I do it to help my friend. :lol:


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#9 robm1093

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 02:35 PM

Spot on, there are those that don't care about the contamination. I think this is mostly because of ignorance. Carp overpopulation is not a problem on long island because of this . The photo below is a stream that flows to several waters and the meat eaters still refuse to believe the carp are not safe to eat and I have seen them taking fish from this spot And this sludge is the stuff you can see, think about all the stuff you don't see in the water. In Nassau County all waters have a stream running in to it that are connected to the storm drains . I have also herd they are selling them to Asian markets and restaurantsand and are being sold on the streets of Brooklyn. NY. Attached File  post-2875-1222632423.jpg   310.11K   1 downloads

Edited by robm1093, 23 January 2011 - 02:53 PM.

Robert William Mallgren

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2008 carps caught 114. 3 mirrors


2009 carps caught , 69


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Posted 23 January 2011 - 02:46 PM

Spot on, there are those that don’t care about the contamination. I think this is mostly because of ignorance. Carp overpopulation is not a problem on long island because of this , the photo below is a stream that flows to several waters and the meat eaters still refuse to believe the carp are not safe to eat and I have seen them taking fish from this exact spot, I have also herd they are selling them to Asian markets and restaurants. I have also herd of carp being sold on the streets of Brooklyn NY. Attached File  post-2875-1222632423.jpg   310.11K   1 downloads


Not surprised in the least, putting a max size up to which carp can be taken would keep the down levels of whatever getting into the food chain for the unknowing like resturant customers.




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