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when its done without a back door agenda then i may be more supportive

What was the agenda?

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Go team usa! Im cheering for you guys just like every US carper should. Im happy the US is in this competition.

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My understanding is that bow and arrows aren't allowed in this event Tom...but seriosly...the team trials were open to all...

Yes they were. have a look at them, all designed to compliment the Euro approach. Correct me if I'm wrong.. Please...

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whose all in team usa i cant find it anywhere

This was my first question,,,unaswered.

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Ya'll can't piss on my head and tell me its raining. While I thank all of the sponsors I can honestly say, as any sane person could, that the deck was stacked with the phony trials to further what someone thought was best for WHAT?? Representing the USA, representing a bait tackle complany, to further ones own personal thoughts on how they think this event might be wone?? Anyway to say it represents the USA in any way shape or form is just bollicks.

Someone please show me where I'm wrong here....

ps.. Americans are the worlds best at adapting and overcoming. They should be given a chance to show THEIR stuff.. JMHO

Kindest regards

Tom.

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Americans are the worlds best at adapting and overcoming. They should be given a chance to show THEIR stuff.. JMHOKindest regardsTom.

Not true in angling Tom...Team USA are consistent though....consistently last or thereabouts...across multi disciplines as well, carp fishing, coarse match fishing, fly fishing...I do believe they do quite well at ice fishing though...and if ever F.I.P.S decided to do put on a World Championship for how much ketchup you need in your rice I'm confident they would absolutely shine!

Let's hope these guys change some of that!

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Not true in angling Tom...Team USA are consistent though....consistently last or thereabouts...across multi disciplines as well, carp fishing, coarse match fishing, fly fishing...I do believe they do quite well at ice fishing though...and if ever F.I.P.S decided to do put on a World Championship for how much ketchup you need in your rice I'm confident they would absolutely shine!

Let's hope these guys change some of that!

I guess catching the lake record at the world classic on Madine was just a fluke too.

GUS

Tom.

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I guess catching the lake record at the world classic on Madine was just a fluke too.GUSTom.

Nah..that was top angling with some good fortune thrown in...you don't target big fish after all do you? :) Seriously though, the F.I.P.S

Tournaments are a totally different ball game...ultra strict rules developed over fifty years to create as level a playing field as is possible...most venues wouldn't even qualify for hosting the events..incredibly high angling standards will be on show for all who are there...nerves will be shredded...grown men will weep...best of luck to team USA!

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Hopefully we can get over some of the petty bitching and support these guys... Go Team USA

The Sections drawn for the World Carp Fishing Championships are:

Team USA Red - Section B:
Anglers - Bogdan Bucur & Mihai Aciu
Reserve - Eric Glazewski

Team USA White - Section A:
Anglers - Kevin Olivier & August Wells
Vice Captain - Alin Hosu

Team USA Blue - Section C:
Anglers - Sean Lehrer & Ivelin Petrov
Reserve - Christine Stout

Captain - Lee Young

I draw the actual peg numbers for each section tomorrow, approximately 3 hours before the start.

Team USA also attended the Opening Ceremony this evening, in the historic town of Piegaro. I had the pleasure of seeing a new Team carrying their nations flag with pride through the streets again; another memory of a lifetime.

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Ya'll can't piss on my head and tell me its raining. While I thank all of the sponsors I can honestly say, as any sane person could, that the deck was stacked with the phony trials to further what someone thought was best for WHAT?? Representing the USA, representing a bait tackle complany, to further ones own personal thoughts on how they think this event might be wone?? Anyway to say it represents the USA in any way shape or form is just bollicks.

Someone please show me where I'm wrong here....

ps.. Americans are the worlds best at adapting and overcoming. They should be given a chance to show THEIR stuff.. JMHO

Kindest regards

Tom.

Instead of pissing on everyone's parade why not put yourself forward and host a World Championship here in the USA?

Then perhaps you could understand the same tough decisions and commitments Lee and others had to make.

I have a huge amount of respect for you Tom and some if not all the others who are calling foul on the Team USA effort but if you want to change something DO SOMETHING rather than complaining.

Who would Team Pack Bait be sponsored by Quaker perhaps?

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As an Englishman I do appreciate some of the cracking sarcasm in this thread and a couple made me laugh.

My understanding of the trials and criteria is that Lee tried to hold try-outs over the previous years and had very little interest due to fact there is no prize money and also that many of the costs associated have to be covered by the anglers. Only a couple of people came forward and while all of the USA Team Members are affiliated with one bait company I don't think there were any other anglers who were genuinely interested. Hopefully, this changes in the future and results in a more diverse group of anglers.

Lee has been very open with the criteria and upon request even sent me a copy. Many of the trials include long range casting, so I guess this would rule out a lot of anglers and unfortunately whether you believe there is transparency or not the anglers chosen were the only ones willing to fulfill the requirements. Do I believe this will give the most able and qualified anglers? Probably not, but they were the able to attend trials and also pay the money to make the trip. According to the rules only one angler can be a non naturalized contestant so all of the anglers are either american born or citizens.

I really have no horse in this race, and personally I have no interest in contests. Fishing to me is all about the wild and exploration but I also appreciate how hard it is to organize a team without major backing and sponsorship. Perhaps if we want to improve this process in the future we can help with these areas and for those who think they should have been chosen, then step up to the plate and attend a trial in the future.

Best of luck to Team USA, whatever the result I know it will be an experience of a life time.

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Tom, as much as I agree with you on your points of who or why the Team is what it is, I know a good number of anglers that took a pass on being involved because of the costs, lack of time, politics, and the fact there is no "Pay-Day" if you win which goes counter to the way American Athletes/Sports participation works here and I can understand the lack of interest in participation as much as I regret that Americans don't really work together well enough to actually be involved in the first place. So I wish them luck, and hope for the best because although you may not agree with whose there......fact is they are better prepared than the last group to fish on the International Stage and as a competitor they deserve my respect for stepping up to the plate.

On a side note, it is really a shame that folks would hi - jack someone's section, and thread while they are out of the country and involved in a competition after spending so much time, effort and money. And most offensive is that it would come from a State Chair in the form of bashing another State Chairs work, a Good sponsor of CAG, and to discuss members of the team who are also long time CAG members is disgusting and inappropriate to the point they should be removed from positions in the club, and their sponsors should really think long and hard about the damage being done here by such thoughtless and selfish comments NOT IN THE OPEN FORUM. If there is no TEAM here it is surely do to the selfishness and arrogance that seems to breed on this site while pushing personal agendas.

Good Luck to the U.S. Team!!!

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I didn't know some of the locals were in the tournament good luck!

I think your being to harsh chill

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The FIPS website is pretty useless - last updated in 2008! I guess we'll have to wait for feedback from Lee though Team Korda (UK) are posting regular updates on their FB page about the tourney

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Hats off to all team members and sponsors for putting together a U.S. team for this event; the personal sacrifice of time and money is to be applauded. GO TEAM USA !!! I for one am once again proud to see the USA participating in this international event.

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Here is a list of the Team USA Sponsors:

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Hopefully we can get over some of the petty bitching and support these guys... Go Team USA

The Sections drawn for the World Carp Fishing Championships are:

Team USA Red - Section B:

Anglers - Bogdan Bucur & Mihai Aciu

Reserve - Eric Glazewski

Team USA White - Section A:

Anglers - Kevin Olivier & August Wells

Vice Captain - Alin Hosu

Team USA Blue - Section C:

Anglers - Sean Lehrer & Ivelin Petrov

Reserve - Christine Stout

Captain - Lee Young

I draw the actual peg numbers for each section tomorrow, approximately 3 hours before the start.

Team USA also attended the Opening Ceremony this evening, in the historic town of Piegaro. I had the pleasure of seeing a new Team carrying their nations flag with pride through the streets again; another memory of a lifetime.

While I know you mean nothing personal I would just say that no where have I said anything bad about team USA except for the method of their appointments. They are there and I hope they do well. However no matter how they do it will not be a reflection of anything American...jmho

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Tom, as much as I agree with you on your points of who or why the Team is what it is, I know a good number of anglers that took a pass on being involved because of the costs, lack of time, politics, and the fact there is no "Pay-Day" if you win which goes counter to the way American Athletes/Sports participation works here and I can understand the lack of interest in participation as much as I regret that Americans don't really work together well enough to actually be involved in the first place. So I wish them luck, and hope for the best because although you may not agree with whose there......fact is they are better prepared than the last group to fish on the International Stage and as a competitor they deserve my respect for stepping up to the plate.

On a side note, it is really a shame that folks would hi - jack someone's section, and thread while they are out of the country and involved in a competition after spending so much time, effort and money. And most offensive is that it would come from a State Chair in the form of bashing another State Chairs work, a Good sponsor of CAG, and to discuss members of the team who are also long time CAG members is disgusting and inappropriate to the point they should be removed from positions in the club, and their sponsors should really think long and hard about the damage being done here by such thoughtless and selfish comments NOT IN THE OPEN FORUM. If there is no TEAM here it is surely do to the selfishness and arrogance that seems to breed on this site while pushing personal agendas.

Good Luck to the U.S. Team!!!

I'll tell YOU what is A shame, it is ashame that Team USA has been hijacked so other Europeans can attend this world event. In the past every effort was made to assure a true representation from the USA was made. Noon given this time.

As a true American Carp Angler I feel as if I've been raped and asked to be ashamed of it.

Regards

Tom.

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