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So there is no "carp" season for rod and reel here in Minnesota. You can fish anytime. In the town of Hutchinson there is a dam, it is constructed to look like a river flowing down rocks. It's the Crow River and it flows under the bridge that goes into downtown. I noticed that from the dam and all down the length of the river along the park is ice free. I imagine it's got a good current and the water is freezing but I think it's pretty deep and I am betting there are some Carp in the deep holes along there if there is some. I was told a few years back when the redid the dam there that after draining down the river to work on the dam they had to take carp out buy the back hoe bucketful and put them in dump trucks to be given to farmers for fertilizer. So I know the river has carp in it. I am awaiting a call back from the local DNR officer there to see if it's ok for me to fish there. Today I am going to go scout it out and see if it's even fishable. If it is and if I can I am going to fish there. It's been a looooonnnngggg winter and we are getting these 50 - 60F days and I wanna go fish.

So what I need is some advice on what to use to fish there tips, tricks ect. After I scout it today I will post some pics of the area so you can get a better idea of what I'm talking about.

About me: Moved to MN from Maine. No Carp in Maine but I was a Bass Fisherman. Started carp fishing last summer and have be hooked ever since!

Thanks for any help in advance.

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Welcome to the forum. I think flavored corn on a hair rig would be a good place to start.

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Ok so I am new to Carp fishing as of last summer. I actually discovered it late summer like mid August. The Carp were very helpful since the water temps must have been perfect cuz all you had to do was watch and see where they were breaching, to eat bugs, clean out their gills, fill or empty their swim bladders or whatever the reason it is they jump out of the water. I'd pull up to a lake, look for breaching, then fish where I saw them. Honestly it was wayyyyyyy harder landing them with my bass gear than it was to find them and get them to bite. I got proper carp gear over the winter though.

So #1 I have never fished moving water for carp. #2 I have never fished cold water like right after ice out for carp. I see on the DVD's I get for free with my BCT orders that they fish in winter in cold water in Europe but I think here in Minnesota right now the water is way colder.

So is it even possible that I can catch them? I know how other fish like bass react to cold but again I have no clue with Carp. People claim you can't catch them ice fishing but I don't believe that they fish with the right bait and also they would never pull in a average sized carp with their bare hand so I am sure they attribute break offs to other fish like "oh boy I lost a giant walleye!"

I took pics of every fishable stretch so feel free to photoshop them and point out where you would put your baits if it was YOU fishing. Also I can get canned corn at the store and I also have some Monster fruit punch out corn. I also have hemp oil and other goops (it's been a long boring winter so I bought a bunch of stuff ) I have PVA bags and the like. I basically have every tid bit to make any rig.

So yes corn, heavy weight, but helicopter, in line, confidence rig? Do I want the bait on the bottom? I have sinking hook length, flouro, lead core, also have the floating stuff, stiff rig etc. Like I said it's been a boring winter :wink: Plus for me I used to tie flies a lot and all this rig making stuff and the different ways to use it is kinda fun to play with like making your own lures.

Again I appreciate any and all help and unless it suddenly starts snowing or raining I am going fishing tomorrow and I will post pics stream side. Especially if I catch any :mrgreen:

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I would start with a simple inline setup, soft hooklink, and a panko pack. Simple sweet corn or imitation corn on the hair. Starting simple will help. Biggest thing I can suggest is just fishing, can't catch if you don't have a long in the water!

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Panko is a type of Japanese breadcrumb that when mixed with cream corn creates a packbait that you mold around your lead or hook. Its great for cold water and very simple to make if you can find a cheap source. World classic baits sells flavored versions which led to me catching 13 carp in under 4 hours yesterday with one rod.

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Ok I've heard of like panko breaded shrimp and such so maybe I can find some at a grocery store can you explain the recipe and how it's used?

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How to make Panko Bread Crumb / Seed Pack Bait Method mix step by step.

https://youtu.be/i8QG0hAwzXM

Bryan has tons of videos that can help out new Carpers.

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With moving water you wouldn't need the birdseed. I don't mix it in at all. Just the panko and cream corn. I've used it at a river in Illinois that never freezes and have caught on it.

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Static (bolt) rig

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About how long should I try each pool? If this was a river you never fished before at this time of the year how long would you give each area if you aren't catching before you'd pack it in?

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I would stick around for an hour or two. The thing with colder water is the fish don't want to move as much. Catching carp in cold water is all about location. If you could find a area where the water is just a couple degrees warmer (some kind of inlet or warmer discharge) I would start there. Good luck and keep asking questions, that's what we are here for!

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oats,panko,cream corn ,sweet corn + flavor of your choice .. 2-3 corn on hair and you are set .. prebait few days in advance tho might help on fish day !

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Woke up and its a bit cold and super windy so it may just be a pre baiting day.

I've always just thrown out handfuls of corn. Should I do a batch of the pack bait and throw out balls of that?

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I would just stick to the corn. No need for the other stuff until you start fishing.

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Still cold it's about a 20 mile drive away my Labs haven't had a bath since ice in think I'll kill two birds with one stone. Pre bait with corn and throw the ball in the river for the boys to fetch. Unless it warms up here.

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I start carpin when the ice is still melting... And I'm on the st lawrence so it's moving water....

In my opinion

If you are close by put a little bait in every day or 2... Literally a handful or 2... If you can put some where you can see it... Then you'll know if it's getting eaten...

Best result for me were what I call "sharp" flavors... Like pineapple... Tangerine... Plum...

Best colors have been fairly visable baits... White... Yellow... Pink...

I'm a big fan of small boilies in the spring... Give me a 12-16mm yellow pineapple boilie and I'll have serious confidence...

I pair that with some form of panko method

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Very cool you are in very similar conditions. I don't have boilies (yet) but I can follow the other advice. Cold today and tomorrow they are calling for rain so until another warm day appears I will bait everyday.

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You can mix up panko balls and corn as an option. I make them tennis ball size and prebait with those sometimes.

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So pre baited with frozen corn Sunday. Monday it was cold and I also got an email about taking a test for a job Tues in the same town as my proposed fishing spot. Figured I would wait til Tues and go fishing after my test. Well today its chilly with a wicked wind. Figured I would scope out where I pre baited. As advised I put a pile of corn where I could see it.

Well I was disappointed that the corn looks untouched

But I was excited that a couple different sections of the river upstream are thawed.

So I'm just going to wait til another warm day. Then I can pre bait the upstream areas. Drive down fish the pools by the dam and then hit the upstream areas on the way home.

Since fishing may be slow I'm gonna at least go on a nice day so I can enjoy the sun.

Gonna get some panko pack stuff today so I'll be ready

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