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I have a big pond next to my house with huge grass carp. If I have to guess they are around 50 pounds. I have tried everything for bait and have had no luck. I have spent over two years trying to catch one out of my pond with no success. Any help??

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Hm, that's weird. I'm no grass carp specialist, but I've caught them in several venues by using my regular method balls, and corn on the hair rig (small hook, fixed bolt rig).

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I have tried sweet corn on a hair rig they don't even look at it. They spook very easily. I have tried fly fishing for them and using all sorts of baits. 

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Yes, indeed, they spook very easily. So use bite alarms, take a good book, and stay away from your rods for hours...

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Thanks, any bite alarm recommendations? I currently use bells. I have never tried bollies or any of the common baits used in Europe. I'm not sure what ones to try any recommendations?

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Well, I tend to use Fox Micron alarms, they are cheap and reliable. But bells can work fine too! My point was for you to stay away from your rods for a long time while waiting for a bite, to avoid spooking those elusive grassies. When they get hooked, you typically get a nice run (like a common carp would do), so a bolt rig works fine, you don't need to reach your rods within seconds.

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If you throw in ripped up bread and stay far back, do they ever start start feeding on top?

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I've stalked & caught several grass carp to over 60lbs.

First I chum a few pieces of Wonder bread out using a catapult and then once they are confident on the freebies toss out a piece wrapped around a hook (freelined - no weight etc on the line). Grass carp have a tendency to 'nudge' the floating bread first so don't be in too much of a hurry to strike - wait until it disappears into the mouth.

As I said on FB post please be ready to deal with the fish after you've played it and got it in the net (you'll need every inch of a 42"+ landing net !!!). I now keep the fish in the water, unhook it and release it and make no attempt to put it on the bank especially when fishing alone. They really can be a real handful and can do themselves terrible damage.

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The carp do not respond to bread at all. They never eat in top of the surface at my pond. The pond is over 2 acres at least. It is private, so I'm the only one to fish there. They carp have never been caught before. I have not tried 

• Biscuit dough 

•Earth worms 

•or bollies 

 

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The carp come very close to shore to feed and I see there tails in the water. I don't no what there feeding on. They don't respond to my bait even though it's right next to them. I have used flies and they ignore it. They have been in the pond for over 13 years feeding on natural things so maybe it's because they have no need to eat anything else.

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3 hours ago, Savayman said:

t please be ready to deal with the fish after you've played it and got it in the net (you'll need every inch of a 42"+ landing net !!!). I now keep the fish in the water, unhook it and release it and make no attempt to put it on the bank especially when fishing alone. They really can be a real handful and can do themselves terrible damage.

yup.......

i have caught thousands and they all do the same they get crazy on the bank and can jump flop flap flip there way away from anything... 

:wacko:

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I am prepared to catch it I have my net hook removers and everything ready. I would not want to hurt the fish at all that's why I'm not a bow fisherman. I'm looking for baits and rigs people use to catch them. Sweet corn just doesn't work for these grass carp or bread. Any grass carp bollies or baits recommendations would help a lot. 

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1 hour ago, Billy said:

The carp come very close to shore to feed and I see there tails in the water. I don't no what there feeding on. They don't respond to my bait even though it's right next to them. I have used flies and they ignore it. They have been in the pond for over 13 years feeding on natural things so maybe it's because they have no need to eat anything else.

it may not be bait - May be they are Spawning - you see them in shallows and close then..  

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Could be but must grass carp when stocked are sterilized so they can't reproduce and I don't think grass carp can spawn in ponds. Even if they were to be spawning I have tried in summer, fall, winter and have still had no luck.

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Hi zirjacks what is a range cube?

31 minutes ago, zirjacks said:

Try a hair rigged range cube.

 

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Get them feeding on something. A small amount of corn in the same spot every day, until they start to regularly feed. Then slip a hooked bait in the pile.

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Late last summer I discovered a small pond (2-3 acres, max) where some small grassers had been stocked (not over 6 or 7 pounds, some smaller).  I had pretty good luck with those by spodding lightly to the 2 or 3 spots where I would be casting, using a mix of soaked and boiled cracked corn and deer corn (maize), sometimes with a bit of cinnamon added.  Then I'd fish a paylake rig with 2-4 kernels of canned sweet corn on a #4 hook and some sort of pack bait on the sinker.  I usually put out about one cup -- never more than two -- of spod mix at each spot.

It seemed as though the small amount of "free food" I initially spodded was all it took to start them feeding. After that, they were attracted to my pack bait and the corn on the hook.  Keep in mind, however, that the much bigger grassers in your pond might not respond in the same way as these smaller ones did for me.

Also -- unlike what Jerome described earlier -- when they bit, these fish tended to tug repeatedly, and with one lone exception, they did NOT run off.  That could have been because they were smaller fish or because they are in a fairly small pond.  However, I've caught larger grassers elsewhere that bit both ways -- a solid long run one time, OR just a series of jerks the next.  When they don't run, you'll have to set the hook yourself -- which means (contrary to the advice suggested above to avoid spooking the fish) that you might need to stay fairly close to your rods.  That's something you'll have to decide for yourself once you do finally get them biting.  If yours are fish that usually take the bait and run, you can set up some distance from your rods, but if they are "finicky biters" like mine, you might need to stay closer so you'll be ready to set the hook when they bite.

Good luck.  Looking forward to seeing some photos of big fish.

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They call them range cubes but they are cylindrical shaped.  Go figure.  I use them to spod with cracked corn and found that they break down rather quickly.  I put one in a bowl of cold water in the sink and checked it periodically.  Works great!  Catches fish!  I have a friend who thinks it attracts buffs due to the molasses in it.

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What other baits do you guys use? I was planing on chumming one area of the pond for a week and not touching it. Any chum recommendations?

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I recently moved and my new "home" lake is 5 minutes from my house. I have caught 16 grass carp so far ranging from 22lbs to the largest one at 49lbs 3ozs. All have been caught using a hair rig with artificial corn. I use a mix of oats, bread, and sweet corn which I ball up on my lead and then throw out several balls after I cast out. I fish in 2-4 ft of water 25-40 ft from shore. All have been caught between 7 and 10:00 in the morning as my fishing time is unfortunately limited.

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Some beastly grass carp there Don, well done ! 

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I was fishing with a small (1/16 oz) roster tail spinner and a grass carp hit the spinner. It was probably 8-10 lbs.  While it was a lot of fun, I have never heard of a grass carp hitting an artificial lure. Much less one retrieved fairly rapidly.  Any input would be appreciated. 

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