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I have a Penn Prevail (4-10 oz. lure weight) with Okuma ABF-65, so spod/long distance rod is taken care of, and another ABF-65 awaiting an actual carp rod.  Will buy a landing net, and have something that will work as an unhooking mat.  Also have a small spomb that works decently well with my bass rod.

I am currently shopping for these things

Gripper/Method Lead.  One for carp rod, one for Prevail
Rig Ring
Carp Rod - looking at the sub-$50 offerings from NGT. The 3 piece would be nice, but the Penn Prevail is 2 pc. 12', so if I comes, then the 2 pc. 12 carp rod would be the same length.
Hooks
Artifical corn/maize, popup and sinking

What should I be putting in my cart?

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I have used Ashima, Korda, and Gamakatsu G Carp for hooks with good results. Size 6 or 4 works well. I'd get some of both sizes. Ashima also makes your rig rings. Enterprise artificial corn is my favorite.

 

 

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The Ashimas are cheap, but only available in size 8 or 10.  No Gamas currently showing.  Do/did you use the Korda Kranks?  Those are the ones I have been reading about alot lately.

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I use Korda Wide Gape in size 4. They are my favorite. This time of year stocks of the common sizes are sometimes depleted. You could try Carp Kit. I order from Simon regularly. He is a CAG sponsor too.

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++  Korda and Gamakatsu . 

when it comes to hooks - go for the best names out there .. dont compromise on end tackle - specially hooks :D

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The Ashima hooks we are no longer carrying so what we have is what we have. The Gama hooks are there (unsure why you could not find them)

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=gamakatsu+carp+hooks

If you have any questions feel free to email us. 

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2 hours ago, Zatesta said:

The Ashima hooks we are no longer carrying so what we have is what we have. The Gama hooks are there (unsure why you could not find them)

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=gamakatsu+carp+hooks

If you have any questions feel free to email us. 

I clicked on hooks, and it doesn't show up in the manufacturers list. Thanks for the link.

I emailed a last week through the Contact US page ago asking about when these would be back in stock

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/nets/ngt-42-carp-net-and-telescopic-handle

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/range-cubes
 

Also, any comments on your NGT $30-40 2.75 lb. carp rods would be helpful.

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Range Cubes won't be in for quite a while. As for the net, I would have to check to see if it has been discontinued. You could get the NGT 6ft handle ($14.95) and one of the NGT Carp net with spreader block ($18.95-$22.95).

We sell a lot of these and have had very few issues with them.


http://www.bigcarptackle.com/rods-reels/rods/ngt-specialist-carp-12ft-2pc-275lb-tc-carbon-carp-rod#product-tabs

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I was hoping for the $30 net to come in, and add the FO-SLIP-115CM for about $36 total.

Saw FNH-COMBO-NET42"-HANDLE-DLX which saves a dollar over piecing it together if the combo has the metal spreader block. Can you confirm?

That rod is what I was looking at, and was recommended by the guy on Carp Quest.  Didn't know if FR-C-CLASSIC-CARP-2.75  would be worth the extra $6.  And the FR-F-CARP-MAX-3PC had a higher shipping cost than the 2 pc. rods.

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That net comes with a plastic spreader block. Not sure why the shorter rod has a higher shipping. We are tied to USPS for rates and sometimes there are hiccups in the systems talking. We also refund back any difference in the shipping if we are able to ship it for less than you paid.

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9 minutes ago, Zatesta said:

That net comes with a plastic spreader block. Not sure why the shorter rod has a higher shipping. We are tied to USPS for rates and sometimes there are hiccups in the systems talking. We also refund back any difference in the shipping if we are able to ship it for less than you paid.

So piecing together

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/nets/ngt-carp-net-with-spreader-block  Green 42" with metal spreader block

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-6ft-carp-net-handle

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-stink-bag-42-net-and-handle-combo

Instead of http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-deluxe-42-carp

correct?

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That would work! 
 

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Hi Jason,

I would highly recommend ensuring you upgrade to a metal spreader block. 

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Note from BCT's site: "The NGT nets do not come with the metal spreader block anymore. We have adjusted the price of the net and you get a plastic spreader block and purchase the metal spreader block for the same price as before. Plus, keep the plastic spreader block as a spare!"

Thus you will also need the,

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-metal-spreader-block-for-42-50-nets

In answer to your question from the CarpCast Fan page,

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 what hooks are you using, and are you still on panko and oats? Tried oats and corn, but only got nibbles. I need to get to a lake with some real bank access that might have carp.

Also, any suggestions on grassy bait? State funded local lake has a few big grassies, but don't want to get into them until the proper parts show up

I am currently using Eagle Claw's Trokar Magnum carp hooks, curved shank, #4 & 6, and previously used the Ambush range of hooks from BCT, wide gape and curved shank teflon in sizes #4, 6 and 8. I have also used Korda Kaptor wide gape and curved shank hooks with great success. Yes, I still use my panko/oats packbaits and do modify it to suit my fishing needs, either with additional flavorings and/or particles depending on what type of hook bait I am using. The grass carp I have caught, have all been on high attract, fruit flavored baits, corn, maize, large peruvian maize and actual vegetables, zucchini having worked particularly well lately. 


As for hook baits, I currently use maize (flavored), corn (flavored), a LOT of enterprise corn pop-up's (various flavors), veggies, cc moore's hi-viz tiger nuts (creamed, pineapple and tuitti fruitti), live system and hell raiser range of pop-up's.

Tight-Lines,

John / CarpQuest

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1 hour ago, JohnFinney said:

Hi Jason,

I would highly recommend ensuring you upgrade to a metal spreader block. 

Thus you will also need the,

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-metal-spreader-block-for-42-50-nets

The original net I was looking at was
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/nets/ngt-42-carp-net-and-telescopic-handle

Which has the "upgraded design compared to the original NGT spreader block"  That and the net bag and be done.

When looking at piecing the net together, none of the NGT handles have very good reviews posted.  It looks like I will have to go $85-100 to get above the NGT level nets.  Hard to stomach with US style normal nets being less than half that.

 

1 hour ago, JohnFinney said:

In answer to your question from the CarpCast Fan page,

I am currently using Eagle Claw's Trokar Magnum carp hooks, curved shank, #4 & 6, and previously used the Ambush range of hooks from BCT, wide gape and curved shank teflon in sizes #4, 6 and 8. I have also used Korda Kaptor wide gape and curved shank hooks with great success. 

Korda wide gape in the BCT basket right now.  Will check out the curved shank Trokars.  Why did you step away from the Korda Kaptors and the wide gape style?

1 hour ago, JohnFinney said:

Yes, I still use my panko/oats packbaits and do modify it to suit my fishing needs, either with additional flavorings and/or particles depending on what type of hook bait I am using. The grass carp I have caught, have all been on high attract, fruit flavored baits, corn, maize, large peruvian maize and actual vegetables, zucchini having worked particularly well lately. 

The Totally Awesome Fishing Show video on surface fishing has led me towards dog biscuits to begin with.  But I don't want to try a grass carp until I have a good net to land it with, as the locals are 3-4 foot long. Have you tried cat or dog food in pellets or wetted and smashed as groundbait?  $2 for 4 lbs. at Walmart doesn't seem too bad if it might work. Been thinking of pineapple juice soak on bread or bagel pieces.  Maybe soak the dog "biscuits" in it instead?

1 hour ago, JohnFinney said:


As for hook baits, I currently use maize (flavored), corn (flavored), a LOT of enterprise corn pop-up's (various flavors), veggies, cc moore's hi-viz tiger nuts (creamed, pineapple and tuitti fruitti), live system and hell raiser range of pop-up's.

Tight-Lines,

John / CarpQuest

I was looking at unflavored maize or sweet corn to start with.  Imitation on top, real below, snowman style.  I want to stay away from boilies and stick to grocery store stuff until I decide how far down the rabbit hole I wish to go.  Currently in the car I have a small bag of instant oats and a few "travel packs" of sweet corn for carp, and two chopped up Slim Jims for bluegill and catfish.

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Hi Jason,

 

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“When looking at piecing the net together, none of the NGT handles have very good reviews posted.  It looks like I will have to go $85-100 to get above the NGT level nets.  Hard to stomach with US style normal nets being less than half that.

 

 

 

I have used a variety of the NGT net handles over the years, currently I am using a pair of NGT nets,

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/handles/ngt-6ft-carp-net-handle

The first one has a 42” standard net with metal spreader block. I added a single net float,

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/nets/ngt-carp-net-with-spreader-block

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-net-float

The second one is again a 42” net with a dual float system.

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/ngt-net-with-dual-float-system

The handle is a single piece, solid, 6ft section with a foam grip on the rear and threading for the spreader block at the top. No frills, is strong and sturdy, gets the job done. Honestly, as far as reviews, it's a solid net handle, it gets the job done.

I also tried the collapsible telescopic handle from NGT. This works, the extended distance can be useful, however it is a lot softer and “bendy” than the solid 1 piece handle. I preferred the solid 6ft handle.

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/handles/ngt-2pc-2m-screw-fix-handle

To round out my NGT net collection, I have a short 26” collapsible net,  this works pretty well and is good for a portable solution, though the head is a little small.

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/nets/ngt-folding-26-metal-stalking-net-and-handle

I have also used a 42” Sonik SKS net. If you want to step up and spend the additional $60 , you won’t be disappointed. I find the head from the SKS detaches easier from the spreader block, it is lighter and thus a little more maneuverable.

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/nets/sonik-sks-landing-net-42-2-two-piece

Over the years I have had a couple of plastic spreader blocks fail, and had the whole head snap the head clean off one handle. In each case this was caused by a “guest” of mine attempting to “lift” a fish from the water in the net. Remember, Euro style carp nets aren’t designed for heavy lifting – no matter how many $$$ you pay. I have had to replace the mesh on my nets a few times, it eventually gets torn up by the fins of the carp. Whatever net you choose, ensure you can get a replacement mesh.

 

 

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“Why did you step away from the Korda Kaptors and the wide gape style?

 

A great question, as I really do love Korda’s range of hooks. They are simply, excellent - sharp, strong and over many years, I never experienced a failure of the product. Honestly, I couldn’t fault them. Yet, that quality comes at a price, currently $8.95 a packet. The wide gape style is a preference of mine when using bottom baits, especially boilies. I have found lately that the curved shank hooks work a little better for me with single pop-ups, or baits popped up with a piece of corn, snowman, particles + enterprise corn etc. I have been fishing a lot more the back end of last year, and most of this year, with particles thus a change to curved shank styles.

Given that I am focused on taking new people out to the sport, advocating for the entry level angler, especially those on a budget or those just getting into the sport, I needed a product that met that price point. Before I advocate for any product, be that rods, reels, terminal tackle, baits, hooks, I ensure it is up to the job and is something that I will use in my every day fishing. I switched from the Korda hooks to the Ambush range of hooks and terminal tackle. The Ambush hooks performed just as well, at a fraction of the cost, albeit without the brand name pricing. They are sharp out of the packet, strong and available in all the same patterns I used. At 1/3rd of the price of the Korda Hooks, they were an ideal substitution. If money was no object, I would have continued using the Korda hooks. However, for taking those out on a budget, when I am giving away and loosing so many rigs, it’s Ambush for me !

In the past few months I have been talking with the guys at Eagle Claw regarding their new range of Trokar Magnum carp hooks. The factory that makes them is local to me and located just up the road in Denver. I am very passionate in the desire that American tackle manufacturers get into the business of producing a variety and range of products targeted specifically at carp fishing.

With Eagle Claw’s release of the Magnum hooks, I want to support their efforts and demonstrate to the masses that an American made hook can do just as well as those from overseas. Hard to do if I don't actually use their hooks. So, I am currently battle testing these hooks. I take my hook quality very seriously and simply will not use, or advocate for a product, that isn’t up to snuff. I will get a review done once I complete my testing – likely end of this year, early next year. To date, they have performed well, are insanely sharp out of the packet, with a unique triangular point design. They have not failed me yet in use. It could be argued that your hook is the single most important piece of tackle you use, next to the bait you cast out there !

<Suggestion> Spend the $ and invest in a hook sharpener. Regardless of whose brand of hooks I am using, I like to make sure they are razor sharp. A couple of $ on a sharpener can save you big time, allowing you to re-use a hook & rig, multiple times before discarding. 

 

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”The Totally Awesome Fishing Show video on surface fishing has led me towards dog biscuits to begin with.  But I don't want to try a grass carp until I have a good net to land it with, as the locals are 3-4 foot long. Have you tried cat or dog food in pellets or wetted and smashed as groundbait?

 

 

Nope, not tried dog food though I hear it can work great, same as cat food ! As a youngster I used a lot of floating bread flake, it was killer for carp feeding on the surface - sadly, as I can’t chum anything here in Colorado, it’s hard to get the fish going on the surface which makes this approach challenging. A very wise move to not even try to catch a grass carp until you can land it safely ! 

 

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“Imitation on top, real below, snowman style.  I want to stay away from boilies and stick to grocery store stuff until I decide how far down the rabbit hole I wish to go

 

Just look at how well Iain Sorrell has done recently on artificial baits alone – his crazy captures in Italy and then a great performance in the CT Tournament. Nothing wrong with imitation corn atop something else, heck, that’s what I’m catching a lot of my fish on this year. Don’t underestimate grocery store baits either, they can be highly effective. My PB grass carp came on a couple of cubes of zucchini, soaked in salt and sugar, this year.

 

Tight-Lines,

John

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56 minutes ago, JohnFinney said:

http://www.bigcarptackle.com/carp-care/nets/handles/ngt-2pc-2m-screw-fix-handle

 

To round out my NGT net collection, I have a short 26” collapsible net,  this works pretty well and is good for a portable solution, though the head is a little small.

I had looked at the 26", but didn't know how big a fish it would take.  How big would you feel comfortable landing in it? It looks like a simple net for the bass, panfish, and small < 10 lb. channels in the places I fish.

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I'm sure you could land a 20 lb common in the net. I have gotten mid'teens in there ok. Not sure i would want to try and get a 30 lb grasser in it though ! A lot of the lakes i fish the carp average 11 to 12 lbs and works fine for those. The handle and head are sturdy. It is a 26in net, so you can get a good sized carp in there. Again, plan for what you may catch, if in your case thats a 36in carp, then i would go for a net big enough to handle it with ease.

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11 hours ago, JohnFinney said:

I'm sure you could land a 20 lb common in the net. I have gotten mid'teens in there ok. Not sure i would want to try and get a 30 lb grasser in it though ! A lot of the lakes i fish the carp average 11 to 12 lbs and works fine for those. The handle and head are sturdy. It is a 26in net, so you can get a good sized carp in there. Again, plan for what you may catch, if in your case thats a 36in carp, then i would go for a net big enough to handle it with ease.

If only we had a Carp Talk magazine or a list of all carps in each body of water.  Wouldn't it be nice?

When you go surface fishing, do you go bigger or smaller on the hook?

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Surface fishing, I would be using a much smaller hook. I'm sure there are others here that can offer better advice than I on that topic !

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You can try looking at your state's DNR website. In Michigan they post survey results from various lakes. The surveys indicate the predominant fish in various bodies of water.

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11 minutes ago, Brian Pearcy said:

You can try looking at your state's DNR website. In Michigan they post survey results from various lakes. The surveys indicate the predominant fish in various bodies of water.

https://app.fw.ky.gov/fisheries/waterbody.aspx

But add bank access and it's the Ohio River, or Guist Creek Lake, which has a 30 yard stretch of bank access that is usually full.

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