 Carp and 50 degrees FFF DON'T GO!, You can't catch them !!!! |
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 Dec 13 2009, 08:14 PM
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I can name my own title  Group: CAG Member Posts: 8496 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Western MO - Kansas Member No.: 58  |
All,
For sure this belongs in "beginning carping" I have been making this annual post, or one similar since at least the first FFF in 2003. CARP DO NOT FEED IN WATER BELOW 50° - NOPE! And, I might add what they do ingest they do not digest. At 50 or below carp digestive system is between 5 and 10% efficient. “Feeding” - the act of consuming the food supply for nourishment successfully enough to sustain life. Carp have huge livers. They can sustain life in water below 50 for up to seven months. To put it simply energy is stored in two ways in their body - fat and carbohydrates. Glucose and proteins are re-converted into in glycogen that is stored primarily in the liver (in carp) and skeletal muscle for immediate energy when it is reconverted to glucose for utilization. Fat is stored as fat. Excessive carbohydrate is converted into fat. Carp will, instinctively ingest substances. You may, only because you have a line in the water, catch a carp. It will not be feeding. The fact a carp takes your hook has little to do with your effort. Unless you are river fishing the coldest any water you will be able to find is 39 degrees on the bottom – none colder. I firmly believe a lot of guys measure the air temperature as the water temperature. It is really hard to consistently find water below 50 in the lower 48 states, at least below the 40th parallel. FFF is a joke you blithering idiots! Phone Ohh, since the late 1990’s I have offered to let this fact lie. All someone has to do is open a carp and tell me there are contents – any contents in the gut. I will take your word as a gentleman. In the eight years I’ve made this offer NO ONE has been able to find a carp caught in water below 50 with anything in its gut. Jerome, Sign me up again this year will you? I still don't have a camera and will probably fish alone. I'm sure, as in the past, you will take my word for my success. Phone |
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Dec 13 2009, 08:16 PM
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 Freshwater cows Group: CAG Member Posts: 2581 Joined: 27-February 07 From: Western PA Member No.: 2797 |
lol here we go again
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Dec 13 2009, 08:36 PM
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 I can name my own title Group: CAG Member Posts: 3533 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Austin TX Member No.: 3041 |
Well Bill -- at least you are consistent -- if slightly wrong occasionally
 Enjoy your FFF  Tight Lines, Brid. -------------------- Brid Caveney
PB's Common -- 35lbs 8oz Mirror - 23lbs Buff - 52lbs 6oz Grass Carp - 42lbs 12oz |
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Dec 13 2009, 08:40 PM
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 looking into Canada Group: CAG Member Posts: 3559 Joined: 21-November 06 From: douglasville, GA Member No.: 2289 |
i may have to sacrifice a fish at the FFF. well maybe!!
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pb mirror 25-0 Someplace, GA 8/26/2009 pb BUFF 10-11 kingston, Tn 4/11/2008 pb goldfish 3lbs DC fish-in 05/11/2008 pb grasser--31-5 Appilacicola River 4-28-2010 www.k-1baits.com Far to pretty to give it away cheap thats why she makes 6 figures working 3 days aweek she even break a promise in the promise land she didnt make it this far by just shakin hands!  |
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Dec 13 2009, 09:18 PM
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 Obsessed Carper  Group: CAG Member Posts: 1832 Joined: 12-March 08 From: Enterprise, AL Member No.: 3412 |
Phone, I will tell my father to burn his Hall of Fame certificate immediately.
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Dec 13 2009, 09:33 PM
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 Rod Mills Group: Director Posts: 3284 Joined: 24-December 03 From: Cincinnati,Ohio Member No.: 495 |
QUOTE (bigbird @ Dec 13 2009, 09:40 PM)  i may have to sacrifice a fish at the FFF. well maybe!! better stop and catch one on the way up as the syndicate is C&R  If the ice is on better bring a heavy long chain and a few bricks -------------------- just want to help with wcd... WWMBD... |
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Dec 14 2009, 04:58 AM
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looking into Canada Group: CAG Member Posts: 3559 Joined: 21-November 06 From: douglasville, GA Member No.: 2289 |
 
-------------------- pb common 35-11 Appilaciacola River 4-28-2010
pb mirror 25-0 Someplace, GA 8/26/2009 pb BUFF 10-11 kingston, Tn 4/11/2008 pb goldfish 3lbs DC fish-in 05/11/2008 pb grasser--31-5 Appilacicola River 4-28-2010 www.k-1baits.com Far to pretty to give it away cheap thats why she makes 6 figures working 3 days aweek she even break a promise in the promise land she didnt make it this far by just shakin hands! |
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Dec 14 2009, 09:53 AM
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 Uber Member  Group: CAG B&T Member Posts: 486 Joined: 27-August 09 From: Hongkers HK Member No.: 4932 |
"They can sustain life in water below 50 for up to seven months"
Hahaha nice one phone! every forum has one 
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Dec 14 2009, 11:19 AM
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I can name my own title Group: CAG Member Posts: 8496 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Western MO - Kansas Member No.: 58 |
Noknots,
A healthy carp can live for 7 months without food. Are you disputing that statement? Phone |
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Dec 14 2009, 12:24 PM
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 (happily semi-retired) coach Group: CAG Member Posts: 7977 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Arlington, MA Member No.: 138 |
QUOTE (phonebush @ Dec 13 2009, 09:14 PM) Jerome, Sign me up again this year will you? I still don't have a camera and will probably fish alone. I'm sure, as in the past, you will take my word for my success. Phone I always take your word. With a grain of salt. And salt stimulates appetite. Even in the winter.
-------------------- Jerome Moisand, Arlington MA
Carp angling as it should be, fishing for fun and having fun! Si vis carpio, para baitum... |
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Dec 14 2009, 12:31 PM
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(happily semi-retired) coach Group: CAG Member Posts: 7977 Joined: 3-March 03 From: Arlington, MA Member No.: 138 |
Just to add to "The Phone FFF-carp-gate".... A quote from the FFF 2007 results announcement:
Total number of participants: 148, including 14 juniors. States with active participants: 20 in the US, and one in Mexico! Total number of carp: at least 280... For a little more than 3000 pounds of carp. 50 degrees F or less: 229 carp, more than 2500 pounds, 54 participants caught at least one (including the smallest and largest). Of course, they were all "snagged" in the mouth, right, Phone? -------------------- Jerome Moisand, Arlington MA
Carp angling as it should be, fishing for fun and having fun! Si vis carpio, para baitum... |
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Dec 14 2009, 12:50 PM
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Uber Member Group: CAG Member Posts: 287 Joined: 28-April 09 From: California - From Iowa Member No.: 4686 |
Brid you need to fix your thermometer the lake is colder than 50 and I am still catching carp. I think we need to fish the lake this week and check your thermometer.
Jeff QUOTE (Brid @ Dec 13 2009, 08:36 PM) Well Bill -- at least you are consistent -- if slightly wrong occasionally Enjoy your FFF Tight Lines, Brid. |
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Dec 14 2009, 07:36 PM
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I can name my own title Group: CAG Member Posts: 3533 Joined: 22-June 07 From: Austin TX Member No.: 3041 |
QUOTE (cubzzz @ Dec 14 2009, 10:50 AM) Brid you need to fix your thermometer the lake is colder than 50 and I am still catching carp. I think we need to fish the lake this week and check your thermometer. Jeff Jeff - my thermometers are just fine!! It's Phone that has the 'minus 50 blues'!! I've got to get a pretty important plumbing job done on the caravan, and - once it's done would love to come and wet a line.  Cheers, Brid. -------------------- Brid Caveney
PB's Common -- 35lbs 8oz Mirror - 23lbs Buff - 52lbs 6oz Grass Carp - 42lbs 12oz |
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Dec 15 2009, 06:12 AM
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 Obsessed Carper Group: CAG Member Posts: 1744 Joined: 20-March 05 From: Mount Joy, Pa. Member No.: 1098 |
QUOTE (tomcat85 @ Dec 13 2009, 09:16 PM) lol here we go again No STILL... Ray |
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Dec 19 2009, 06:08 PM
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 Obsessed Carper Group: CAG Member Posts: 888 Joined: 25-July 03 From: Central NJ Member No.: 323 |
Your Right Phone...carp don't feeed in 50 degree water....but I will literally haul em until I am out of breath in 42-47 degree water on Bread Pack n Puffs.
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