classiccat Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 Iowa DNR will be performing a restoration process (link)on Black Hawk Lake which involves wiping out the entire lake: "Wallace is coordinating fisheries crews from across the state that will be crisscrossing the lake on preplanned routs applying the fish toxicant, rotenone, to eliminate all fish remaining in Black Hawk Lake. " If water quality is the real concern, should they be considering the fact that the lake appears to be completely surrounded by farmland which may lead to eutrophication (link)? Wouldn't you think that eutrophication combined with record drought (an excessive biomass probably doesn't help) are likely root cause? Iowa's DNR may be in for a rude awakening when their water quality woes remain even after replacing the "rough-fish" with "fine-fish" . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santiago Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 The degradation of water quality is always our fault. Instead of taking responsibility and taking action, we ignorantly shift the blame to scapegoats like roughfish. Can't wait to see what their next excuse is when water quality doesn't get better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Austin Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 That is ridiculous, as you guys said cant wait to see what happens when things dont get better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brendan Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 are you serios!! ya, cant wait to hear the next excuse when it gets worst Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill Stoltz Posted November 7, 2012 Report Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) one of our big lakes here did same thing in the spring. Of coarse it didnt help, but....they cant and wont remove all the carp. what u will end up with are fewer fish but larger size Edited November 7, 2012 by Bill Stoltz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SoCalCarper Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 ain't that the place where there is a lot of mirrors? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
classiccat Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 ain't that the place where there is a lot of mirrors? you're confusing this with Blackfoot Mick's heart may have skipped a beat with that one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barbelfloat Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 LOL Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Moore Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Lakes I've found with mirrors Blackfoot ID & recently Box Butte in NE were both rotenoned. Now they have only mirrors? Be interesting to see if that happens in this lake, or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baitbucket Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 you're confusing this with Blackfoot Mick's heart may have skipped a beat with that one! LOL i nearly choked on my dinner!!! Never ceases to amaze me that they will spends tons of money/manpower to remove a problem that isn't a real problem. I read that after they done that the lake has to be left for 4 years before restocking, then youll have to wait for them to grow. If this is the case anyone that normally fishes there must really hate carp to have their lake unfishable for that amount of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
classiccat Posted November 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 LOL i nearly choked on my dinner!!! Never ceases to amaze me that they will spends tons of money/manpower to remove a problem that isn't a real problem. I read that after they done that the lake has to be left for 4 years before restocking, then youll have to wait for them to grow. If this is the case anyone that normally fishes there must really hate carp to have their lake unfishable for that amount of time. they appear to be taking measures to reduce runoff...so they're not oblivious. And if I understand the situation correctly, the plan that is in progress included collecting desireable species and storing them in a holding pond...then restocking these adult fish next spring in addition to fresh stocks from hatcheries; apparently the winter season is all that's required for the water to detoxify. It would be interesting to see if David's observation from previous "clensings" materializes! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baitbucket Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Its good that the toxin will die offas soon and i wonder if this has anything to do with mirrors. I read a couple of the other stories on that link, ironic that one of them was about saving fish including carp. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carpinken Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 Chris and all else , there's a local river known as the Wallkill River , which 80% percent of it flows through farmland . The river is entirely over populated and all fish are stunted . The bow hunters all use this as a battle cry why killing the carp is doing the planet a favor . Yet it seems the farm fields may play a bigger role . As everytime I hear of this scenario the circumstances are always the same . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
(TN) Cannonball Posted November 8, 2012 Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 World's funniest joke- I'm from the government and I'm here to help you. I'm concerned about the use of the word "desirable." Who determines what is desirable or not? Surely, not a CAG member or officer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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