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  1. Ohio,

    Wonderful outcome. I admire your "stick-to-it-ness". So you say, "solve the puzzle" and later you said you added boiled chick peas to your pack. Chic peas in a grocery can are already cooked. Did you boil them to add a "flavor" or did you start with dry gerbanzos. Grind them before or after boiling? Tell us more, what was your base for the paylake style pack bait? Or, was it more of a Euro method ball?, feeder?, pva? Flavor? If it is a secret you can tell me I don't need to know since I am in Kansas City.

    Now you have "committed" yourself to a photo of a 40 - but you knew that!

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    This time the chick peas were the bagged, dry variety. I boiled them 30 minutes and then fed them to the food processor. The stuff packs real well with my particular pack bait.

    As for my packbait, here is it is: calf manna, oats, cornmeal, flour and salt. This time I added some panko and, of course, a heaping portion of ground chick peas. Then I mixed this concoction with a secret, commercially available, method mix. I had a LOT of carp in my swim with this mixture. Though the chick peas produced fish, it was getting clear that there was something in all of that mess that they really wanted. Luckily, I had a good selection of hookbaits and found one that matched the flavor of the commercial method mix.

    It is difficult for me to express the frustration that I felt seeing carp after carp boil in my swim and ignore my hookbait. I would say that I saw three dozen fish break the surface in my swim in just an hour or two after daybreak. They sort of like chick peas, but they LOVE... With this piece of new information, I believe that I can do even better in this lake. Also, I know of a lake with a similar natural food base where my new packbait and hookbait might be effective.

  2. With the end of the world approaching and the big females threatening to drop their eggs at any time, I decided to go fishing. My trip ws delayed because of a leaky hot water heater AND a leaky washer. For good measure, I also decided to drop my cellphone in the washer. A few hours later, with all of the bad luck out of my system I went fishing. I had to go fishing.

    This particular lake and I have a history. My first 8 trips or so and probably a 100 hours of fishing drew a blank. But those big splashes kept me coming back. I knew there were big carp in this lake. I kept coming back. Last year, I finally began to solve the puzzle this lake presented and it produced my then personal best of 22.75 lbs. About ten days ago it produced my new PB common at 28 lbs even. This had never been a numbers lake, but it was rare to catch a fish that was below the teens.

    3 hours after the trip started, with local crappie fishermen cursing their luck and now gone, I hooked into the hardest fighting carp in my life. It took nearly 30 minutes to subdue this girl. She just didn't want to show herself until she was ready for the net. Finally, I got my largest ever mirror, a 24.5 lb mirror that measure 34 inches long.

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    Through the night the fish kept jumping and a couple of fish in the 15 lb range and a 10 lber were caught during the night. At daybreak, there were a lot of carp breaking in my chummed area, but they refused the chick peas that the others had fallen for. A new bait brought 5 more to the net. By now the crappie people had returned and they just couldn't believe that I was targetting big carp instead of tasty crappie. Still, I showed them my baits and tactics and they found that interesting.

    I managed 2 more 20+ in my net, a 22.75 and a 23.5lbs. Others were also caught and a 19.5 lber grabbed my bait as I was packing up. 9 total carp totalling around 150 lbs were caught.

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    One of my experiments worked really well: MY PACKBAIT NOW CONTAINS BOILED AND BLENDED CHICK PEAS - TRY IT!!!

    One last thing, I K-N-O-W there are 40lb + plus fish in this lake - I saw another one.

  3. The numbers weren't great, but those are all quality fish. Cowan has largest average size for carp of any lake in Ohio that I have fished. Non-teen fish are a rarity. Unless there are a lot of liars on the shores of Cowan Lake, I have heard of multiple reports of fish in the 30+ lb range. I am going to put in an overnight session there in a few days. I want a 30+!!!

    You gotta love the way those fish are built.

  4. Add me to the list of those that are impressed by the Koi - that is one beautiful, unique fish. The carp have great coloration and appear to be very healthy. Those a BIG fish for a 5 acre pond.

    I think youare on the right track with the grass carp. Slingshot them some bread and get them accustomed to feeding on it, thentry and get one off of the surface. You might even get the commons to join the surface feeding.

  5. They fought quite a bit differently. They nibble real gently at the bait so it's hard to tell when your getting a hit. I hooked 3 before I finally landed one. The way their mouth is shaped it seems like its real easy for them to spit the hook. Mine fought hard after the take, then nothing till it got to shore, then it fought hard again.

    That's a typical fight for a grass carp. You usually get a bit of a fight at the outset - for 30 seconds at most - and then they let you drag them in - until they get within about 15 feet near the bank - and then they start fighting again. They can really displace some water when you get them near the net.

    My first grasser was 12lbs and I remember being totally thrilled with the catch.

  6. While we can discuss if a 40 lb or better fish swims in the lake. It still seems that there is a decent mixture of size and numbers to keep things interesting at that lake. It just seems that you are going to have to go through an awful lot of carp to get that big one.

    Lake Eries contains huge carp, but out of the over 1000 caught by Ohio CAG members, I'm only aware of one fish over 30lbs and it went 38lbs. The average size fish is in the low teens at best.

    I would rather spend my time at a place where the average size fish is big. There are two lakes nearby to me. One is full of fish that average 3 lbs and the other one produces average fish in the mid-teens. I'm going to spend my time at the lake with the higher average size.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd love to go to Blackfoot and I am envious of this trip report.

  7. I am impressed by the buildof those Cammack carp. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a forty in that place. It is amazing that they have so much weight on them this time of the year. Will they get even bigger when they put weight on for winter? Congratulations on the awesome catch.

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