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Why don't we satisfy all the 'experts' angst????
Send Jerome some examples of your best tied rigs, puffs, pack mixes etc and we'll have the carp put them to the test... Live and on-video.
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Tom - I'm still a 'young' apprentice as far as pack bait is concerned and have yet to get any kind of handle on 'puffology'. I've messed around a bit and for the most part have struggled with the damn things. I personally found the wooden bead amazingly effective over the past season. If the fish are on the pack then it basically becomes a "haul fest" and the bead saves lot of time and messing around. You can even 'flavor' them but for the most part I've not found it necessary. If they 'suck' in your book that's fine and hopefully this coming season I can learn more about puffs and how to use them to better effect.
Carpinken - personally I think long leaders (more than 3-5") allow many more opportunities for the carp to reject the bait. Shorter hook lengths will get the fish 'on the lead' much more quickly. Next time I'll even try some heavier leads than the 2oz in the video so they can't shake the hook loose.
As for 'puffs' who knows? Artificial baits of almost any kind (boilies , corn etc) are remarkably effective and provided the fish is picking them up (intentionally or otherwise) then all that is left is to make the rig work. The visual feeders certainly picked up the bead on several occasions and I think if I had been tight lined to the lead then you'd see a dramatic increase in hook-ups. That's been my experience when fishing this set up over the past season but then I've not had a video camera to tell me otherwise!
There are a couple of issues I learned from Jerome when shooting this video...
#1 In this instance we had to drop the bait down vertically to see the bait in front of the camera. This in my mind had a significant impact on the effectiveness of certain rigs. I can't wait to go back and learn more about fine tuning the bead on the hair... I know it works and have caught plenty of fish on it over the years. I think I know the problem in this instance and it will be interesting to see if I'm proved right... or wrong!
#2 Almost every video I've seen of carp feeding has shown just how many fish most of us are missing. This is especially true of the majority of fish that are just 'randomly' grazing & sucking up material. Visual feeders that go straight to the bait usually give much more opportunity for bite detection as well as self hooking (then appear to be moving more quickly, tip-up with the bait in their mouths so lifting the lead etc). We all love to delude ourselves on the effectiveness of certain rigs but seeing it live in front of you is horribly humbling!
I can't wait to get another opportunity to shoot some more footage with Jerome - my note book now has several pages of things to try out next time!
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Yes, this is what we did with the second test with the packbait, but we had the advantage of seeing what happened to the first one. Which wasn't that intuitive to begin with, Iain didn't squeeze the first one that much, actually. The second one was squeezed so loosely that there was no way you could have cast any distance with it. I think the conclusion is clear here, the attractiveness of this pack was terrific (I've never seen carp being so frantic), but the recipe itself wasn't the right one for the time of the year and local conditions. Nor was my own method ball recipe, by the way. And that's ok, we're all learning (well, most of us), and this is the fun part.
PS. as to 'doughball' Tom, I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy my next video...
I'm not sure what the deal was on this grits pack - as Jerome says it was a P-I-A to pack properly! There was no deviation from the recipe and usually you can squeeze the life out of this pack, cast it 40yds and have it breakdown in under a minute. As he says tho' the fish were all over it and seeing it on video is a real eye opener.
I'm increasingly convinced that in 80-90% of cases carp feed by methodically or perhaps randomly 'vacuuming' around the bottom - simply sucking in materials (chum, sand etc) and blowing out stuff that they don't want. Watch the fish in Jerome's video and you'll see this activity as being the 'norm'. Then all of a sudden you'll see the occasional fish make a bee line straight for the bait as if in a 100% visual 'grab & run' mode. In 'vacuum' mode its amazing (and frustrating) how many times a fish can pick up a hair-rigged hook bait and eject it...
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Packbait breaking has nothing to do with the water temps but all to do with people making crap and calling it packbait. Ya'll are killing me here. You do everyone a disservice showing a dough ball and calling it packbait.
Tom.
The Grits pack in Jeromes video was your recipe...
Now I'm no expert (clearly) but one of the problems initially was squeezing the pack too hard in the first instance and once we adjusted that the next issue was a lot of fish in the swim dispersing the pack all over the place.
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"If you have the D-LOK fitted I just clip the alarm in place or screw into position on the buzz bar or bank stick and then the hard cover pulls off relatively easily."
Yep, what Iain said. If you dont have the alarms on buzzbars or banksticks, the cases are very tough to take off with the snag bar back plate.Once I have my "black box" (hopefully soon
)then I wont worry about the cases for the alarms.Black boxes are just clearing customs... hopefully they will be here tomorrow and I will get them turned around same day to all those who have been waiting patiently.
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Larry,
wayyyyy to snug,,,,,,,,,that extra elevation on the back plate messes it up
Er yes they are too snug a fit... especially when they are cold - LOL
If you have the D-LOK fitted I just clip the alarm in place or screw into position on the buzz bar or bank stick and then the hard cover pulls off relatively easily.
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Headed back to a local water where I watched some carp hanging over old weed beds last month...
Back then the water temps were 40F but the area is now covered in a layer of ice...
Amazingly I watched these fish actively cruising about!
Equally fascinating they swam around only under the ice even though there was clear water about 20 feet either side of them!
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Even with the launch of several new alarms in the past 18 months there is still only one alarm that continues to top the awards list...
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Love the comment... "I liked Sir John... he was, well unfull of sh*t"
Can't be bad when one of the wealthiest men in England proposes that young anglers enjoy the apprenticeship of catching gudgeon & perch before moving on to bigger and more exotic species.
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Iain,,,
ya think??????
they gotta catch me first I suggested to a couple of UK carp mags that, since we tend to catch a L-O-T more fish, they should send new gear here to the USA for evaluation... they baulked when I said my only caveat being that results would be scientific and honest.
In too many cases tackle is designed to catch more fishermen than fish...
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so if it makes you feel any better, as mentioned previously color 3 or 4 feet of the line with a marker , but I hasten to add, this coloration is for YOU....the fish don't give a Chit
Neil you will be burned at the stake as a heretic by the UK carp magazines and industry
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Great job you guys are doing out there !!!!! make us proud
Absolutely!
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Keep them coming guys!
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10 is too many... I think you should now just stop fishing.
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CT Outfitters is hosting a Carp fishing get together aimed at introducing new people to the sport.
This Sunday Oct 30th at Batterson Pond Farmington, CT Noon - Dusk.
Well have some experienced carpers on hand to help out and demo tackle, techniques and perhaps even some fishing catching!
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Well done mate - cracking fish!
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Excellent video - that fish was motoring at the beginning!
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New York - St Lawrence River June 11 2011
Iain Sorrell 43.04 Common - witnesses Steve Clow, Nigel Griffin, Ethan Khloen
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There is nothing worse than enduring a fishing session while feeling the cold...
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... and of course wearing one is the perfect compliment to any big fish photo!
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Nice looking fish and a couple looked like they had big heads and humped shoulders... not bad for a first attempt!
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Got to love those short session - way to go!
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Nice fish, good pics too, i also use the same quick clips, on the end of the mainline, put a lead clip tail rubber on the hooklength tie a loop put in clip then slide the tail rubber back over the clip to prevent the loop working out of the clip.
Not sure if I 100% understand the set-up... is the lead sliding on the mainline?
Underwater Video - Paylaking Rigs & Pack
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It was a 2oz lead and a 1/0 Gamakatsu finesse hook...
Interesting comment on the 6oz lead... a certain Mr Warwick reckons that under 5oz a carp can shake the hook free.