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Pre-bait but do it lightly. Like you said, you don't want to fill them up, just keep them in the area.
Thanks for your input! I think I'll toss out a small amount of pressure cooked feed corn and hemp seed for a few days leading up to my excursion!
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Hey everyone,
I've got a few questions regarding winter time carping tactics. The information on the web is scattered and conflicting at best! I just signed up for the FFF and am wondering what some of you other carpers' method of approach is.
My first question is in regards to pre baiting. To bait or not to bait? That is the question! I understand that the general thought in winter is not to attract the carp to your swim, but rather to find where the carp are and fish to them. Now unfortunately I've never fished my favorite local lake in the colder months, and am not sure where the fish would be. I have 2 spots that are very productive in spring, summer and fall, and I tend to pre bait them for 2-3 days before I plan on spending a whole day on the bank. I understand that the carps metabolism is severely slowed down in cold water, and am concerned about filling them up with freebies before even getting a line in the swim. What do you all think, no pre baiting, light pre baiting, heavy pre baiting?
My second question is regarding what types of hook baits most of you use in colder weather. My typical "go-to" bait (and chum) is pressure cooked feed corn, to which I add cane sugar, kosher salt, and pineapple ester flavoring. Now I'm currently thinking about switching it up a bit for the FFF. I am planning on using (though I'm completely open to suggestions) 12mm CC Moore Live system boilies on one rod, and 12mm CC Moore Silent Assassin Hellraiser pop-ups on my second. I was contemplating making small pva sticks to accompany them which would contain crushed Live System pellets and stick mix, and CC Moore's Milk and Nut Crush.
What do you all think?
I'm very much looking forward to spending some time on the bank, even if it means I wont be able to feel my face and hands!
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Your name: Greg Collins
Your CAG forum name: washingtoncarper
Your state or province of residence: Washington State
If it differs from your residence,
the state or province of your FFF 2014 venue: Same as residence
Junior (17 or under as of 1/1/14)?: No -
Photoshop?
+1! Pretty cool though.
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Excellent video as always Brian! What did your setup consist of that day?
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Would you be able to use that buttermilk with panko?
That would be killer for winter time if it works.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I would imagine it'd work fine. We'd probably just have to up the panko content and decrease the ammount of buttermilk, as panko doesn't have the same absorption properties as thick rolled oats.
I for one am sure willing to try it! The cloud effect looks great. Thanks for another winning video Brian, they're always appreciated!
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Thank you for the info buzzbomb! I may need to get in contact with this person being that I've still yet to meet any carpers that live in this state!
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Ahh, good old Chelydra serpentina. Wonderful creatures! Albeit potentially dangerous to those not familiar with them. Great bycatch, hopefully it was released unharmed!
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When you put it that way it doesn't sound so great. I suppose it makes sense though. All of these bait making companies vying to be the next "big thing", putting out dozens of various boilies etc., spending massive amounts of money on advertising and trying to lure in new carpers. All of these new baits and products have to be tested somewhere by both the distributors and consumers, so it's not surprising that the lakes are overcrowded and bank space is at a premium! I suppose I just like the overly romanticized idea that everyone in the UK is as obsessed with our favorite fish as we are!
In retrospect I suppose we do have it fairly good on this side of the pond! Lots of lakes with carp and virtually no one fishing for them with the exception of those aiming to shoot them. But I must ask, why would you want to travel to Washington for carp? Seems like all the big carp news comes from Texas and the East Coast. Though I suppose there aren't many carpers here to make the headlines and bring the sport to the state! I know for a fact that my home state is hiding some absolutely behemoth specimens!
I wish I could do something to change the tarnished image of carp in this state. If we could get more people over here to appreciate carp the way they are over in Europe, maybe we wouldn't have to dump toxic chemicals to control what the mass media sees as a pest. Rotenone absolutely sucks!!!
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Thanks for the replies everyone, your support is greatly appreciated!
@ Brian- I don't currently have a YouTube account, though I should be making one in the next couple of days and will probably be using my "washingtoncarper" handle. I cant think of many pressing video recommendations at the moment, but I do think it'd be very interesting and informative to see a how you color your "deer corn" to various hues for a more custom bait, and how you personally go about making your own boilies (assuming you even do). Thanks again for posting all of the videos on your channel, you have helped increase my catch rate immensely and have turned what would have most likely ended as a passing interest into a full-blown passion!
@ FiSherwood- There definitely aren't many bait carpers on the Columbia! The most recent issue of CarpPro had a great article on flying the Columbia, unfortunately however, they left out specific locations, and the Columbia is a BIG river! Last season I was fishing at a local lake (Green Lake in Seattle) and ran into a fishermen who showed me a picture of a carp he had inadvertently caught while fishing with worms on the Columbia that had to be an easy 30#. It was absolutely gorgeous! So there's some definitely some fatties in there, I'd just have to find out where to post-up for bait fishing.
@ alex- I'll try shorter hooklinks when using the braid and try to locate a hook sharpener, thanks very much for the tips! I'm thinking about experimenting with different hooklink materials, as the swim I've been favoring recently is rather "snaggy" and has resulted in almost more lost than landed. It is also surrounded on three sides by a thick lily pad bed. Excellent for carp, not so excellent for me! Any suggestions?
@ skeet3t- Wading the flats sounds like it'd be a loads of fun! There's gotta be some decent bank space on the periphery of them that would grant bait fishermen like myself access to the carp population without sacrificing rig presentation in 8"-12" deep water! The lake is absolutely massive though, so it looks like I've got some homework to do...
@ andrewdeeley- First and foremost, I must confess my jealousy of you living in a country where the hobby/sport of carping is looked upon as something to admire! It is, generally speaking, quite the opposite here in the States, where they are most commonly (and unfortunately!) viewed as an invasive "garbage fish" not worthy of pursuit. Disheartening to say the least! There are however some very good carping waters in my home state. I'll be keeping a close eye on your posts as I'm extremely eager to see how someone with much more carping experience gets on in some of the waters I regularly fish! A word of warning however, when fishing the Eastern side of the state, watch out for bowfishermen! They're thick over there and don't take to kindly to us "pleasure" carpers.
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Haha! If only I weren't such a stickler for accuracy
I guess it just gives me a reason (like I needed another one!) to go back for another two day session! -
Hey skeet3t! Probably Banks Lake over in the Eastern portion of the state. I know there is at least one book specifically written about fly fishing for carp on Banks. I've never attempted to fish it, as it's an absolutely massive body of water and I'd have no idea where to start! My personal favorite (and most productive) lake to fish on the East side is Potholes Reservoir, some big elusive carp in that body of water! However the state record carp of just over 49 pounds was caught out of the slightly smaller Moses Lake just North in 06'.
Figured I cant introduce myself without showing a pic of my P.B. carp! This one was the first fish of my most recent trip on June 1st, which was caught before we realized the batteries in my digital scale were dead, so most unfortunately it had to be released without getting a weight on it. My previous P.B. was 15.7 and this one would have had an easy pound or two up on it. Truly "the one that got away"! A beautiful animal no less.
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Hey everybody!
I've been lurking on the forum for quite a while now, but decided it was time to come out of the shadows and join in the conversations! I've been carping exclusively for just over a year now, and boy was it a challenge deciphering all the terminology and vast multitude of tactics!
Being that there are no paylakes in this state I'm fishing wild-water. My typical setup is a 6"-12" hair rig with a 3/4 oz. egg lead fished on my 7 foot Shakespeare Ugly Stik and a Penn spinning reel spooled with 12 lb. fluorocarbon. I've experimented a bit with braided hooklinks, which seems to work quite well on the Eastern side of the state ( standard desert biotope), but for some reason have struggled to produce well for me on the Western side of the state in which I live. Due to this I have simply been using a length of my main line to tie on my terminal tackle.
I've been following many of the videos Brian Wingard has been posting on Youtube (shout out to you bud, you're my carping hero!), and his method of pressure cooking feed corn has been my go-to hookbait of choice. I also like to use packbait (or method mix depending on what you want to call it), and have noticed that my catch rate is greatly improved when employing such tactics.
It's great to have a community of like minded hobbyists to ping ideas off and exchange knowledge. I'm really looking forward to getting involved in the carping community and hope to have the chance to share some bank space with some of you at some point!
Cheers,
Greg Collins
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It feels as though I'm the only one in this state who targets carp without the use of a bow, or as a food source. are there any other carp minded catch and release Washingtonians out there?!
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I think it makes sense to stick with what I've been using for bait as its something I feel confident with. I was only thinking about switching it up since I got a slew of CC Moore products for Christmas, and had heard good things about the Live System range in cold weather. Having said that though, I have essentially no angling experience with boilies (and absolutely zero with pop-ups), and like you stated, winter is a difficult time.
I think I'll go with your suggestion and stick with my "tried and trusted" corn, and if the action is decent, I may try out some of my new baits.