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Carp fishing is all about location, experience, and time. Take your time to scout and look over different sections of the river. I would recommend deep holes that taper off into shallow areas with some structure. Carp love the structure. Learn how to properly tie some hair rigs and start off by using field corn for now. Pick this up at TSC or a local feed mill in a 50 lb bag for about 11 bucks or so.. I would also recommend picking up some sweet feed, horse pellets, etc. Take a big bucket and let it soak for 24 hours and boil for around 30 minutes. You can then add flavoring to it if you would like to. A good mix I use is some sweet corn... chick peas... sweetfeed... and hemp mixed together for chumming. Pick yourself up a spod to chum with. Start off by chumming that mix and then using a chick pea or whole corn on your hair. Carp fishing is very addictive and takes time. If you are having trouble with chubs the one thing I would recommend is fishing a well balanced boilie. If you have the money and time it would be an absolute go to.. .especially for those big gurls! ; ) Read up on Marios article on here about fishing with boilies it may help you a lot. As Rebelcarp said the carp lose interest in just feeding them straight maize after a while. They need something with more nutirents to keep them coming back for more and more. So if you are going to prebait I would recommend a well balanced boilie and or a mix with some pellets and such in it.
Thanks, I'll definitely look info that. I've fished hair rigs a bit but haven't gotten many hits on them yet and of the ones I did I either pulled too early or left it go waiting and they lost interest. I'll definitely check out the boilies, have actually watched a few videos on them already.
Definitely interested in all these chumming mixtures. When the weather gets a little nicer I'll start into that because I'll need to find a new whole to move onto anyhow. My favorite hole is great for winter/early spring fishing but after that it becomes quite over fished because it is a favorite party-spot of the local teens.
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how big are the Fallfish in your river? in one of my local streams, they're mostly 6-8" & dense doughbait works OK. I hand-mold golfball size spheres to feed.& keep my hookbait in the 25-30mm ballpark (#4 hook, or even #2 short-shank) no corn; no maize; no particles -- nothing small enough for fallfish to swallow easily!!! if I'm lucky, they pester my bait for a while & give up withot stealing it -- if they're particularly hungry/numerous, they still rob me but it takes 10-20 min. occasionally, a 10-14" fallfish will swallow the bait & get hooked, but that's rare -- less frequent than carp ...nothing huge -- just strong, healthy fish up to mid-teens -- very enjoyable w/ lighter tackle.
another thing that has worked in that stream is fishing after a rain, when the water looks like chocolate milk. I fish the back-current along the banks (freeline or small sliding sinker), while the middle of the stream is an unfishable brown torrent rushing by in the opposite direction... the fallfish are much less active, but the carp don't seem to be bothered.
Pretty much the exact same here. The average fall fish is about 4-8" and very rarely do I get into a bigger one. I have tried doughballs in the past but have never caught carp with them. In fairness maybe I haven't given them enough time so maybe I will try again at some point.
The water thing is very true, one of my absolute favorite fishing holes is a place I only fish when the river gets really high and muddy. When it gets that way I fish this spot right along the bank under a tree that overhangs the water, the water there is very deep and really slow (almost still) and the carp seem to just love to lay in there to get away from the current.
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I also notice that Fallfish seem to like a stronger current. If you can find a calmer section of river it may help.
Ineed. The one spot that I've mentioned that I can fish right now without fall fish is where a point juts out into the river and there is a nice, deep area of virtually still water. The carp like to come in there and feed and the fall fish avoid it for the most part. Only time I actually ever seem to see them there is if it is over-chummed with corn or something that brings them in.
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Thanks again for the advice. I pretty much only fish my local river here and there's not really much of anybody who fishes for them around here regularly. I'll have to see what I can figure out about these packbaits, chumbaits, method feeders, etc. Lots of reading to do I guess.....
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Interesting. So what are you using this as, a chum bait only or do you fish with it as well? I see packbaits, etc. mentioned here a good bit but I'm not really familiar with them and not sure how to go about making/using them at all.
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Thanks for the replies guys, it's all GREATLY appreciated! I have never had any luck with that pineapple bait so I have switched back to using mostly just canned corn for the time being. There is one hole I fish a lot in the river and since the warm weather has passed the fall fish seemed to have left the area so it hasn't been a big issue. There are however 2 or 3 other holes that are awesome carp holes I would love to be fishing but the fall fish make the experience so discouraging that I don't even bother at this point. When using the pineapple K1 bait the fall fish would hit it a few times and then loose interest when they couldn't "strip" it off the hook like they can soft corn so in effect it worked, but I never caught a carp on it at all. I've had a few carp hits on the pineapple K1 bait but have never had one actually take it, so I'm thinking I'll try a different flavor once the weather breaks. For right now I'm still winter fishing (and having very good success with it....I actually caught my personal biggest carp to date just 2 weeks ago!) but I'l just stick to the canned corn for now and try changing my game up once it gets a little warmer.
And if I intend to night fish sometime in the near future I do keep the fall fish and use them as chunk bait for catfish but that don't even put a dent in them. Fact is in some of those holes you can just throw out and instantly catch fall fish as soon as the bait hits the water and just do it over and over so I don't think keeping them is really making a dent in the population. Oh well.
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So I haven't actually tried to fish this yet. Planned to over the weekend but both Saturday and Sunday were pretty windy and I didn't think it was worth the drive down with the conditions the way they were. I'll make sure to let you guys know how I make out once I do finally get to try it.
I did hit one of my normal holes on Sunday morning and again yesterday afternoon with success both times so I'm still happily catching fish.
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I would try to free line for them, that's an absolute blast!
Never heard of free lining, guess I'll have to read up on what that is.
EDIT - just read a small article on it, sounds like fun!
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I would wear nutural colours, no sudden movements........feed some sweet corn, lightly though. if you go there a few times a week and put a little out, and the fish are always there..........youl get em. I would definately attempt a freeline......or the lightest weight possible just to get the bait out. consider casting beyond the fish and very slowly dragging it into place............if you cast right on them, you could spook them.............
You can definately catch these fish.............great pictures by the way!
I took a bunch of pics, I couldn't believe how many of them there in this one area although they're cell phone pics and the sun was right in my face so they didn't turn out the best. The last time I was there I did try throwing 2 little handfuls of sweet corn out just to see what they would do. The second handful I threw landed right on them and of course it spooked them. They didn't take off or anything, just sort of slowly lumbered off into the deeper water but still within eyesight.
Thanks for the advice!!
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If they are feeding of course you can catch them.
They're not feeding that I'm aware of. Where this place is at is an access area that I pass a lot during my work day so I swing by and take a look but can't ever stay for real long. The times that I've observed them have been for about 15 minutes or so at a time and they never move.
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I actually have a question on setting the hook when using a hair rig. I have only recently started trying hair rigs and I typically fish three rods and at the moment only have a hair rig on the one. Only twice have I gotten "bites" on the hair rig so far since I started trying it and both times I have missed the fish. The first time as I saw the line tense up and the fish start to swim off with it I simply waited and then the line went slack as the fish must've given up/spit it out. So the next time this exact same scenario happened as it started to swim away with it I pulled trying to set the hook and again lost the fish.
So with a hair rig when do you "pull" to set the hook, or do you wait and allow it to do the work for you?
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Ok, have another question. Recently I came across a place in my local river where there a lot of carp visible. I've stopped there 4 or so times in the last week and they're always there. I'm not really sure what they're doing because some of them come in real close to the bank and sit in very shallow water, some of them set off a little into the deeper water. There seems to be some smaller (14"-16" roughly) carp with them if that's related?
Anyhow, my question is this: Is it possible to catch carp when they are gathered like this and obviously have line of sight on you? Here's a pic I took where you can see them sitting, they're honestly only about 6 or 8 feet off the bank and the water is maybe 2' deep where they're sitting at best:
Out behind them were it's a little deeper there are quite a bit more in among all the rocks, I assume that's where I would try fishing if it's even worth trying at all.
I've never fished for carp that I could actually see and maybe it's a worthless cause but just seeing 15-20 of them gathered in one area got me excited at the possibility so I figured this would be the perfect place to ask.
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Interesting thread, good tips and advice! I personally had never even considered carp fishing during the winter months until towards the end of this previous season. A buddy of mine and I had decided to try walleye fishing and after a while of no luck I threw a nightcrawler on just to see if I could get anything at all to bite a hooked a carp. Until that moment I had never considered carp fishing during the winter but from that moment forward it was on!
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I have but they are not a all the time type of bait for that reason I have not used them anymore at all. I usuaully used oats and cream corn. a tub of oats and 1can cream corn 1 sweet with little to no juice of the sweet corn. depending what flavor bait you are using u add that type of flavoring to the cream corn before you mix it all together and your good to go give it a try
So you use that to chum with or as a pack bait?
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i have never had luck with pineapple products from k1 but other flavors i have. cherry and strawberry are great in river waters from personal experiences
Thanks, I'm definitely giving cherry a go next. Do you use the pellets as well?
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I fish rivers all the time do u use a pack bait if not u should try it I just went tonight we caught 8 biggest was a 20lb common the pack bait i use consist of oats instant potatoes instant grits bread crumb and buck jam mix it up in a bucket till it will hold together. I like to form it around my lead the take the hook of the hair rig and hook it in the top of the pack bait keeps it from tangling up and puts the hook bait in ur case maize I use boilies tho don't matter right in the middle after its broke down
No, I have never tried pack bait. Up until just a week or two ago I have only used canned corn (with the exception of trying dough balls unsuccessfully a few times). I tried the new stuff I had ordered from K1 (Pineapple maize and pellets) and fished hard with them for 3-4 days straight and had no luck whatsoever. I guess maybe I'll order some cherry next and see if it helps.
I switched back to using corn and went yesterday morning and landed two nice carp both weighing a little over 20lbs.
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Thanks for the videos and explanations guys. I guess I did know how to use it, I was just thinking somehow the stop was actually fastened to the loop itself but I guess it just goes through it and then you pull the loop back up through until the stop is snug, correct?
Anyhow, I think I got them correctly. I fished a good deal both yesterday and today but no carp
I've found the fall fish will hit on this bait as well but at least they can't strip it off the hook and seem to lose interest in it quickly when they can't get it off so that's a plus. I don't know if the carp just weren't biting the last two days or if this bait isn't of interest to them. I did however have something cool happen today, had some small taps on the line and when I went to reel in either he struck at that moment or had just been sitting there with it in his mouth but I had a fish on. At first I thought it was a carp based on the weight but then it started to fight and when it actually came up and jumped out of the water much to my surprise it was a muskie! It was massive (by my standards anyhow), I'm betting 40+ inches. I fought him a bit along the bank and as my buddy was getting the net ready he snapped the line and was gone 
No surprise there as I wasn't using steel leaders (wasn't really expecting to run into a muskie after all). Anyhow, I got to see him up close twice before he got away and he was an awesome looking fish, just wish he hadn't hit the line with those teeth of his so I could have landed him and got some pics as I've never caught a muskie before in my life.Tomorrow's another day I guess....
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hello all, I am at the river today fishing and have my new hair rig carp kit along I got from k1. of course I didn't think to view a tutorial on how to rig before coming. I get the idea of it but don't really get how to use the plastic bait stops. my signal is flakey here at best so if anybody could link me to a good video I could watch I'd be mighty appreciative as waiting for videos to load only to find its not the right one is getting old
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I really appreciate all the advice, I'll add some cherry to my next order! I have been fishing for carp as a "beginner" pretty sucessfully for the last few years, figured it's time to finally step my game up a little.
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Pineapple is an excellent flavor, also their tutti frutti is a very good producer, boilies are are very good bait but only if the fish are used to them (know they are a good food source)
Let us know if you have any other questions regarding rigging or fishing method style and let us know how you do.
Thanks Stephen, will do. I'm very anxious to give the new baits and rigging a try.
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i got some k1 sweet corn and its awsome its worth a try it durable. i fish a river with similar circumstances which is also my favorite spot i use to have problems till i switched over to boilies the fish till this date wont eat any flavor accept strawberry or cherry boilies. my thoughts are they never are or were introduced to them so they dont come often or at all to other flavors something about carp i dont know what it is they love strawberry and cherry flavored baits only in areas they are not pressured.
Interesting, thanks! I ordered the Pineapple ice cream and the flavor pellets to chum with. If that don't work I'll give the cherry a go next.
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Awesome, thanks for the advice. I just got an order together there on K1 for a carp starter kit with a few extra packs of bait. Now if I can just figure out where to fish for them while the river is low I'll be in great shape.
Actually I imagine fishing will be good in the spots I have now next week as living on the east coast here we're going to get hit hard with rain from Sandy this weekend and next week.
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Thanks for the quick reply. Is maize similar to field corn grown on farms (for cow feed)? If so I have an abundace of that available as where I fish is right along a farm field and the farmer just cut his corn so there are ears of it laying everywhere that fell off before the cutting, etc.
What about doughballs? I've tried several recipes over the last year or two and have found a few that have a good consistency and will stay on the hook quite well, but I've never actually caught anything on them (or even really had a bite with them for that matter).
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Hello everybody, nice looking forum you have going here. I'm from Central Pennsylvania (USA) and do all of my fishing in a river.
Ok, so I'm not exactly a beginner as I've been catching carp ocassionally in the river for the last 20 years or so. About 5-6 years ago I started to take an active interest in fishing for carp and they have been my obsession for the last 2 years. Up to this point I've only ever really caught them by chumming an area with some corn and then fishing with corn using a simple rig of a standard hook on a leader with an egg sinker above it. Now I'm looking for advice on a few things to move my carp fishing to the next level.
First off, I'm having a lot of problems with "fall fish" moving into an area after I've chummed it up. Once the fall fish find that there is corn in the area and move into it you might as well stop fishing because the second your line hits the water they start hitting the corn and have it stripped off your hook within seconds. Any good suggestions on how to avoid this? I'm guesisng a switch of bait might be in order but I'm not sure what to put out there that the fall fish will not try to hit on as they seem to hit on anything I've used over the years while fishing for bass, catfish, etc. If switching baits won't help, should I look to start rigging different? I'm planning to start trying out hair rigs as they look very promising but I think even those would still be prone to getting the corn stripped by these nusciance fish.
My other problem is that I haven't been successful in finding a way to catch carp except for when the river is high. I have 3 main spots that I fish and my favorite spot is an awesome carp hole but only when the river is really high (higher than what it normally is) after extended rainfall. When the river gets this really high the carp seem to come and lay in along the bank in this spot and I can be almost 100% guaranteed that during these times I will catch some every time I go, but as soon as the levels recede the fall fish start coming to the area again and it's worthless for fishing until the next time the river rises substantially. My other 2 spots are decent when the river is normal (when the fall fish aren't in it) but when the river gets low (as it has been for the past 2+ months) I can't typically catch carp there either. Any suggestions on how to locate a better spot when the river is low?
Any advice/suggestions/input will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks in advance!!
Some Questions On River Fishing
in Beginning Carping
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Thanks. I almost never pull to set the hook on carp. For the most part I've always just fished with a standard rig of a hook on a leader below a swivel with an egg sinker above and have had really good luck with that. When the carp "take" the hook I know it because they slam it hard and swim off with it. I guess I'm interested in taking my carping to the next level, I know there's the potential to catch more using different baits and better rigs which will most likely give me the ability to fish different areas of the local river as well.
Not that the last 2-3 years that I've been actively carp fishing have been bad by any means. I've caught quite a few out of my local river, most outings net me 1 or 2 and I've have good days of 5 or so.