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"Catch and release" of common carp and silver carp is technically illegal in North Dakota, so if you catch a carp while fishing for something else, you may as well learn how to cook it.
I think the easiest way, is to just fillet the fish, remove the red meat, put the white meat through a meat grinder on a fine setting, season it up, and make fish burgers. If caught in clean water, carp (without the red meat) is very mild in flavor, and takes on the flavor of whatever seasoning you use. You don't need egg or any binder for the fish burger, the ground meat seems to stick together pretty well. Or, you could just fry the ground meat and make fish tacos. I don't notice any of the Y-bones after grinding.
Others have suggested cutting the meat in domino-shaped pieces, and pressure canning in a mason jar. I have done this, and the little Y-bones seem to disappear. It's claimed that the canned carp tastes like canned tuna, and I can confirm that.
Regarding mercury, at least on measurements done on local fish, channel cats and carp have less mercury than, say, northern pike or walleye. However, after a carp gets over 24 inches or so, the mercury level is higher, so I only use carp less than 24 inches for food.
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On 6/24/2018 at 7:42 PM, TXMulti-Species said:
"After a fish is caught on hook and line, it is legal to return all fish to the water at the site of capture if done in no longer than the time needed to unhook, measure and/or photograph the fish immediately after being caught. Fish returned to the water should show no evidence of bleeding, be handled carefully, and not thrown or dropped. All fish released from bridges and wing walls (e.g. Garrison Dam Tailrace) must be done immediately after being placed in a fish basket/open container to ensure fish survival."
Many thanks for posting that. It points out a contradiction in ND fishing regulations.
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I noticed a change in the North Dakota fishing regulations from the prior booklet. Catch and release of common carp is not allowed. Just curious if this is the situation in other states. Below is the link. Search for "carp."
https://gf.nd.gov/fishing/regulations-guide
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There's someone else from North Dakota around here???
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From about 10:00 to 10:30 in this video, a fellow shows how if you cover the eyes of a carp for a few seconds, it will calm down, and not flop around so much. I've never heard of this before. Anyone tried it???
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Maybe it's a function of how I fish. I find fallen trees, etc., in the river, go upstream 10 yards or so, and let the scent of the bait go downstream into it. Maybe it's only the bigger ones that venture out that far??
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I was looking at the print edition of the North American Carp Angler, and the results of the FFF contest. What interested me more than the stats of the big ones, were the stats about the small ("baby") ones. The smallest ones in the north were essentially 3-4 pounds, and the smallest ones in the south were 6-7 pounds.
And, that agrees with my experience. The smallest carp I have ever caught was 3 pounds. Even with just a tiny hook, and 2-3 pieces of sweet corn, I've never caught a 1 or 2 pound carp.
Are my observations valid? And if so, why is it so unusual to catch a 1-2 pound carp?
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I live one block from the Red River of the North (the border between ND and MN), so I only know river fishing. The Red, when it is in its banks, is not a fast-moving river, just slow and steady.
A lot of books extol the carp as being smart, spooky, wiley, etc., but I find them remarkably easy to catch. I just look for some fallen trees, etc., in the river, go upstream, maybe 10-20 yards, and cast maybe 10' from shore with enough weight to take the bait to the bottom and settle someplace. The night before I go fishing, I usually put corn on a hook, put the hook and corn in a little cup (1 ounce), and add some puree'd corn, maybe a teaspoon, and freeze. When I cast my "corn-cicle" into the water, it goes to the bottom, the corn puree melts, and goes down stream, and I usually have a carp within 10 minutes. It works great for channel cats, too, except that I put beef liver on the hook, and freeze puree'd chicken liver around it.
I would have no idea how to catch a carp in a lake.
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If you have about 15 minutes to kill, here is a video of carp removal from a Minnesota lake. It involved a net hundreds of feet long, and submarines,,,,through ice!!
From an ecological point of view, can carp over-run a lake to a point that such drastic measures are needed? That was the question going through my mind.
https://archive.org/details/Carp_Harvest
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I just use an old insulated lunch box, and a frozen "blue ice" block as a tackle box. I never go fishing for very long, maybe an hour at a time, and the river is only about a block from my place. I take about six corn-cicles and that's enough of an outing for me. But yeah, keeping them frozen for a day-long trip would be a challenge.
My current recipe: a hook baited with canned sweet corn, in a 30 mL cup with about another teaspoon of corn on top of it, and filled to the top of the corn with a mixture of the juice from the sweet corn can and some beet molasses that I get from a local factory. Both carp and channel cats hit on it pretty well.
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I have had really good luck catching carp with what I call "corn-cicles"...sort-of popcicles made with corn. I take a hook (with leader), and put a few kernels of canned sweet corn on it. Then, I put a teaspoon of canned sweet corn in a 30 mL (one ounce) plastic cup (one could use a unit of an ice cube tray). I lay the baited hook on top of the corn in the cup, and then pour about a teaspoon of the juice from the canned corn to cover everything. Then, I freeze the unit. I cast the frozen corn-cicle about 20 feet upstream from some logs in my local river, with enough weight to keep the unit on the bottom. It never fails to hook a fish within 10 minutes. Usually carp, but sometimes a channel cat. I make up six corn-cicles at a time, and seldom come home with less than 3 fish.
For the record, I'm not a strict C/R fisherman. Anything less than 24 inches (carp or channel cat), I keep and eat, or put up for winter. Anything longer than 24 inches, I release.
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Chay, I would be there, from Fargo, but I've got a family reunion in South Dakota to attend. Best of luck to all of you.
BTW...the carp are hitting hard in the Red River, so definitely the water is warm enough. You guys are going to have a great time.
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I live about 100 yards from the Red River, so I walked over with a pole and four corn-sicles*, and did some fishing for about 30 minutes before work. Landed a nice 3-pound channel cat, and a nice 4-pound carp, both perfect size for eating. So, a good start for 2016.
*I bait up about 4-5 pieces of sweet corn on a carp hook with a leader, put the hook in an ice cube tray, add about a teaspoon of blenderized sweet corn (and the liquid that comes in the can) and freeze it.
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Is this going to be fishing from shore?
Bullheads caught in April in good water can be pretty tasty.
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These are all great suggestions! Thanks!
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The ice is breaking up on the Red River, so it's time to start tying some hair rigs. There are several great videos on the subject, but almost none of them give a recommendation with regards to hook type or size. So, I'm writing for some opinions. I'll be using mostly natural bait on the hair (boiled field corn, etc.), and am fishing for smaller carp and channel cats (anything bigger than 22-24 inches gets released).
Thanks to all who would reply.
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Great Taste! Less Filling!
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These area great pictures, thanks for posting them.
As a newcomer to this forum, about how many pounds were the fish shown in pictures 5, 8, 9, 10, and 11 of this photo array?
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Yeah, I found it worked to cast way past where I thought the trout would be, and then reel the fly into and through the area I was interested in. You can cast a long ways, because these bobbers are pretty heavy when half-filled with water.
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In the early 1970's, I worked a couple summers in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I had reasonably good luck catching rainbow trout in small lakes and using a cheap Zebco rod and reel, a bubble float a little less than half-filled with water, about a 2' leader, and a fly. You can cast a long distance, and slowly bring the fly back to you, floating the fly on the surface.
I was just curious if that might be an alternative to conventional fly fishing technique for carp. Has anyone tried it?
The bubble floats I used were clear, and if you search for Rainbow bubble float, you'll see pictures.
Jay
Where is catch-and-release not allowed?
in Beginning Carping
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I live in a state (North Dakota) where it is against fishing regulations to return a carp to the water.
Just curious if there are other states with a rule like this.
Jay