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27 minutes ago, sanffo said:
Thanks for all the welcomes. I,m sure we have all learnt a few things over the years.
Would be nice to share what i have learned, and also learn some new methods that
work well over here.
Thanks again all.
One thing to keep in mind is that the carp in the U.S. are much more naive than in Europe. They hardly see any fishing pressure, they're wild, and many have never even seen a hook. So unless you're fishing on a very difficult water with few carp, you won't need high nutritional value baits that are boosted with various flavors and essential vitamins etc. While that stuff does help it can get pricy and it's really not needed most of the time for U.S. carp.
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If you're willing to make the journey, Lake Erie can be awesome, especially the Sandusky Bay.
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On 2/5/2018 at 8:15 PM, (MI) Paul Cienciera said:
It would be great to have ya ...it is a blast!
Do I have to sign up? Does it cost money? Do I have to be a certain age? Do I have to be a CAG member? I have no idea how it works.
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Sounds like fun.
I've always wanted to fish the Saginaw River for carp but I've never gone there even though it's only an hour away.
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I've noticed when people sometimes try to fish for perch, bluegill, walleye, etc. on the great lakes, as soon as their bait hits the bottom they are bombarded by gobies. I feel like they would eat all of your chum and your hookbait unless it was a large pop up or something. Anyone who has carp fished in goby infested waters such as the great lakes, do you know if gobies are a nuisance when carp fishing?
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2 hours ago, MoCarp said:
I use well water for boiling everything.....if I am making a method mix I like oats pack/cream corn most of the year sometimes grits,.... winter bread crumb/canned sweet corn...a spoon of crushed red pepper rocks in boiled corn..corn chops boiled turns into a big goo..dumped into and ice chest and pour in rolled oats (can get it in 50# bags at a feed store) pre make your method balls...you can spike up the mix with hemp seed, boiled pop corn, peanuts, chick peas...a touch of deer attractant called "stump liquor" I use a baiting spoon and lob out big orange sized balls...do that most anywhere there are carp you will haul fish....be stealthy because Bfers will shoot you out........
What are Bfers? And does your feed corn have black lines on it like mine? I have yet to catch a carp on feed corn and was wondering it the feed corn I got wasn't up to quality.
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Awesome! Still stuck on my PB.
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9 hours ago, Lizardman529 said:
I know I recommended two swims on Lake Erie (in Cleveland), but if you are concerned about the size of the water then there are much better alternatives for you. After all, the most important part of carp fishing is your confidence, not the bait you use or the gear you have. The swims I recommended aren't inherently bad for fishing, but since they are directly on the main lake with little structure to hold the fish naturally, they would simply require a gargantuan amount of chum to hold the fish. If you are OK with following MoCarp's suggestion (boiling 50 pounds of maize and driving an hour to chum 10 days in a row seems a bit time consuming), then those swims will produce unimaginable numbers of carp over 30 pounds. However, since you're travelling to see a friend in another state I doubt either of you would be able to prebait anything in advance. Prebaiting is still going to be an advantage no matter where you choose to fish, but finding an area with lots of structure where the fish feed naturally may allow you to catch fish without chumming at all.
Such a place is the marina on East 55th street. Carp are not shy of human activity, like their Euro cousins across the pond. In fact, over in the United States it is quite the opposite. A marina will likely have people around, and people mean bread for the ducks (and carp)! Additionally, the boat docks provide cover for the carp and bait fish they occasionally eat. As well as that, the marina is sheltered from the swift currents and winds of the main lake from a row of trees on the opposite bank from the boat docks.. that is where you should fish. Alternatively, if you'd like to try a little tributary fishing you should visit Wendy Park. It sits directly at the confluence of the Cuyahoga river and Lake Erie, meaning any carp entering or exiting the mighty Cuyahoga must pass in front of Wendy Park. No matter where you choose to fish, prebaiting would certainly increase the numbers of carp that you catch, but you may be able to land a few fish without prebaiting, if you fish at either Wendy Park or the East 55th street marina.
I'll be sure to check out those spots on google earth. I hate how prebaiting provides such an advantage but often times the water your going to fish is too far out of the way to drive there and back everyday (at least for me). The closest decent body of water for carp fishing from my house is 30 minutes. All others are 45 minute to 1+hour drives.
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Ok thanks guys.
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I'm a Michigander and I really want to try carp fishing in the great lakes but I don't know where to start. I'm just baffled at the size of them when ever I'm there or looking at it on Google Earth and it's pretty intimidating.
Do I simply go up on the sandy beach and just cast out? Or should I fish rivers/canals that are very close, and connected to the great lakes or other inlets with a much faster drop off? Any advice?
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That's so cool! I've wanted to be a fisheries biologist. What is it like?
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13 minutes ago, Vinsanity said:
When will you be in Ohio? We are having a fish-in this weekend up at Lake Erie.
I was planning on going the 27th. Let me know how the fish in goes and post some pictures.
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4 hours ago, Lizardman529 said:
I've never fished in Ohio, but I do know that Lake Erie produces some of the largest carp in North America, some fish topping 40 pounds on a regular basis. If you're willing to drive an hour to get there, there is a fishing area on the lake on East 72nd street in Cleveland, and a pier called Edgewater pier, also in Cleveland. Again I'm from out of state so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I would put my money on Lake Erie. The fish will move in to the shallows during the next few weeks making them accessible from shore.
Hope this helped!
-Lizard
It did help, thanks.
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4 hours ago, Brian Dudley said:
Charles Mill about 25 miles away from you has a lot of carp between10-20# with some to 25#. Good access as well.
Thanks, I'll check that one out.
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6 hours ago, Vinsanity said:
It gets fished fairly often, but a place for big Commons and Grassers (I've seen one at 57lbs) is Wingfoot Lake. It's 45 minutes away.
Was that 57 pound carp you saw a common or a grass, and do you know if was it killed or not?
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1 hour ago, Vinsanity said:
It gets fished fairly often, but a place for big Commons and Grassers (I've seen one at 57lbs) is Wingfoot Lake. It's 45 minutes away.
Ok thanks! I'll check it out.
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59 minutes ago, Vinsanity said:
I guess the next question is, how far are you willing to drive? Lakes I have fished are little ways away.
I'll drive 45 min but I'll drive an hour or more if it's like amazing. So far I got Nimisila Reservoir, North Reservoir (Portage Lakes) on my mind. But if we just catch a bunch of dink carp there because it's overpopulated with them I'd like to have a backup plan to maybe catch a +20 lb carp.
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29 minutes ago, Vinsanity said:
Ohio is a pretty big state. Where will you be staying? City?
I will be staying at Smithville Ohio.
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So I'm going to go visit my friend in Ohio and he's never been fishing and he wants to go carp fishing with me. I've never been to Ohio but I have looked around on google earth at some potential carp waters but have no idea how good they are. I'm looking for a nice place to take a first time angler so the area can't be too challenging of a water but ideally it should still have some decent sized fish in it. Can anybody recommend any good carp fishing waters in Ohio? Thanks!
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So I recently purchased a WaterWolf underwater camera for carp fishing and I did my first test last weekend (09-10-17). Where I live in Michigan, the water was 66 degrees F and this was the first time I tried using boiled feed corn over sweet corn. I made a mix of fish pellets, feed corn, and garbanzo beans. I was amazed to see how many carp were swimming around my baited area but none of them were feeding. They were all very small for the lake I fish and I know that when the carp are on the heavy spring/fall/post spawn feed you don't see very many small ones around, at least where I'm at.
I have a few proposals on why they weren't feeding:
1. They didn't like the feed corn - I figured if the bullheads and turtles didn't eat it (and they eat anything) then why would the carp like it? But why wouldn't they like it?
2. The water is still too warm for the fall feeding spell.
3. They weren't confident (maybe because of the camera)
4. They weren't hungry (I find that hard to believe)
If you guys could watch my video and give me some feedback on why they weren't eating that would be greatly appreciated. Please skip to 2:18, that's where the first carp shows up.
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I use 20 lb moss green Spiderwire stealth braid for all my carp fishing and it has never let me down. As for sinking your line, either method is fine except I would never use a back lead unless I absolutely had to to avoid boats. Putting a back lead on your line may seem like it's a good idea but it drastically hinders your bite indication by creating a steep angle in the line. When this angle is created any indication or movement down by the hook will be registered at the back lead far before the tip of your rod allowing the carp to get away with a lot more movement, once they've picked up your hook bait, than otherwise not using a back lead.
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I really do like the set up that team sorano showed, but I'm sitting hear reading Discover Carp Fishing by Simon Crow & Rob Hughes, both extremely experienced carp anglers, and in one of their paragraphs in the "Cutting Down the Angles" chapter they said, "Another angle-creating method that is widely used and copied is fishing with rod tips in the air. Many people today fish like this even when they have no reason for doing so. The angle which is created between the rod tip and the line has a detrimental effect on the sensitivity of the set-up. Often a pick-up is only indicated by the twitching of the tip, with no register on the bite indicator itself. This is fine if you are fishing for rod knocks (hence me fishing with bells), but many people prefer to fish for an indication on the bite alarm rather than sitting looking at rod tips for ages on end. We have both caught fish that have only registered at the rod end by twitching the tip. Had we not been alert at these times, we believe that the fish may have had enough time to have shed the hook without the slightest indication." He then goes on to say that it is a good method for fishing over gravel bars, snags, or pads but fishing with the rods upward does have drawbacks. Obviously most takes are going to result in the fish screaming off and it probably won't matter much if there is a large angle between the rod tips and the line, but I have had many takes that were very subtle while fishing with bells and the only reason I noticed them was because I saw my rod and the bells would barely ding. Then after I picked up the rod and leaned into the hook set was when the fish would start to run. I think the fish were down there shaking their heads trying to eject the rig like you sometimes see in those underwater videos.
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48 minutes ago, team sorano said:
yea you can use them as bank sticks. They are just fatter than regular bank sticks.
The rod butts just lay on the ground just as you would fishing with a single bank stick. Think of this setup as bank sticks that you can use anywhere, even on concrete or on a dock.
I own this setup, bank sticks, rod pods, etc. But I am trying to go back to the simple times and lighter. Because honestly, all this carp gear, I do love it, its a drug, but its ruining my fishing sessions bc I have a lot of stuff.
Just like in the world of modifying cars, I went too far and went down the slippery slope. You just dont enjoy it as much. we all watch those carp fishing shows on youtube and envision ourselves fishing that swim, with certain pods, setups, having 50 bags, etc. 90% of the videos we watch are uk carp anglers that have special lakes made for them, clean swims, flat land, and a road to carry your gear on a BARROW. where I fish, I cant use a barrow. we, fish wild waters.
Thank you. One last thing, how tight can you fish your drag with that setup? And can I just screw my alarms right into the storm pole if I decide to use them as bank sticks? I think I'm in the phase where I'm on the verge of barely being able to carry all my gear in one trip, and wanting to buy even more stuff. Yes I know exactly what you mean about the UK carp anglers. Sometimes I wish I were in there shoes because of the big fish but other times I don't because you have to pay for lake memberships, and the carp are heavily pressured.
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14 hours ago, team sorano said:
Let me also give you a little tip. I had my system down pat. I kinda went off the deep end, and went tackle crazy. Due to a torn shoulder from being a bodybuilder and a bad back, I am going back to my old fishing setup and going light.
If you want a simple, cheap, setup that you can take on a huge river, big lake, little lake, sand, gravel, and pack away easily, be versatile, then you get these items. I learned about this setup from my good friend, NY state chairman, ed wagner.
Three fox storm poles. Longer the better. Make sure you get the long ones.
One buzz bar
One gardner tripod adaptor. All these items are available at big carp tackle. More versatile and easier than this, it wont happen. It can all be packed away in your quiver.
Here you can see it in action. Yo can go to any swim and adapt to the terrain. even go over a fallen tree. I believe this was mikes dragones setup at the CDDW back in 06. This is what I am using now.
Do you do anything to keep the butts of your rods on the ground? Also could I take off the storm poles and use them as bank sticks if I wanted to?
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