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  1. Just been reading an account of the capture - check this out "The Big Mirror fell for a SOLAR BYT snowman hookbait topped with a WINTER SECRET pop-up offered on a size 4 SOLAR long shank hook, 25lb KIK BAK hooklink and an 8oz KORDA Gripper lead. This was fished over a mix of SOLAR BYT Wedges , CCMOORES Betaine pellets, RAINBOW Pellets, DYNAMITE's frenzied Hemp, BCUK Partiblend and tinned tuna (no manufacturer of this :D ) Also the guy is the manager of the new company VENTURE CARP started by Steve Briggs, Rob Hughes and I think Simon Crow. Never seen a better ploy for getting free stuff in my life, though sadly it's probably all true.

    Anyway, despite this heroic feat using different manu's for all his terminal tackle and bits n' pieces, there's little chance this fish will grow any bigger as sadly it has just turned up dead at Rainbow - Stew, any more details on this?

  2. OK I don't really have a dog in this hunt, so I'm operating off ignorance and hearsay. But I read in a BBC publication where some guy went to jail, was fined and the fish confiscated because he tried to transport them from French waters to the UK. So does such a law prohibiting the transporting of fish from one place to the other exist?

    Dale, this is a problem - because of the more temperate climate french fish grow larger than UK fish so many clubs, individuals or syndicate owners see it as easier to net large carp from rivers or lakes in France and transport them to english lakes. Apart from the fact that they are large carp they would also cost anything up to $30,000 for a really big kipper from an authorised breeder, so you can see why people do it. It's now clamped down on because not only is it classed as cruel and unusual punishment but can spread diseases like KHV in to native english stocks of fish.

    It is also illegal to stock any fish from one lake, river, pond or canal in to another without having them checked out by the fisheries board, part of the environmental agency

  3. Thanks for the lesson Marcus, I appreciate the information. My only other question is once the fish are stocked from foreign sources or local farms will they breed on their own once they get into their permenent home? No reason for asking, I just like learning stuff :D

    Yes they do in certain places, certainly in some european lakes. In tightly controlled holiday venues or syndicates the small offspring that survive are weeded out through netting and either placed in match lakes or sold on. New strains of carp like F1 and F2 carp which are specifcially bred for to be sterile obviously don't but these fish are bred for the match fishing market and whilst they are voracious feeders aren't supposed to reach double figures though we're still early on in the game so don't know the long term effect of the introduction of genetically modified carp apart from the fact that are supposed to be resistant to Koi Herpes. Stick F2 carp in a search engine if you want to find out more. It's kind of sad but these fish aren't even known as carp anymore simply F1's or F2's in that I had over 100lb of F2's today - this is similar to paylake style fishing rather than the fishing we do though Ed.

    The local breeders in the UK tend to stem from 2 or 3 farms and are mostly used for club waters looking to enhance their existing head of carp, again simmo's and leney strain are the best known, these will inter-breed with existing stock in club waters and carp will grow on from this. I caught this mirror a couple of weeks ago and it's a stockie - in that it has been stocked in to the lake relatively recently, in fact it was stocked at 12lb in 2006 and I took it at 17lb 2oz just over a year later. All carp come from somewhere in enclosed waters, if you want enclosed waters to hold more carp you stock them, doesn't make them them easy to catch, doesn't make them any less of a carp. Waters with huge heads of carp suffer, the carp don't thrive, they die off the anglers don't fish for them and the business fails so it is a fine balancing act. I've spent several seasons fishing 40 acre waters with 30 fish in, if the club chooses to stock another 3 20's it doesn't mean it's easier to catch them it just hopefully increases the number of anglers willing to pay for a chance to try and catch them

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  4. Nightwing, you're nearly there but that is like saying the Colts can't be classed as superbowl winners because most of them are on steroids or the cardinals didn't win the world series because only american teams take part. The fact is that 3 possible world record carp reside in a 125 acre lake and everyone knows that so the lucky few who are tickled by that choose to fish for it. These fish aren't forcefed food by a human hand they were stocked up to 40lb over 10 years ago and have grown on to this size through natural food supplemented by good quality anglers bait that sometimes they fall foul of.

    Ed, these fish aren't kept in an aquarium until they a fit to bust and then chucked in to the UK equivalent of a paylake or syndicate, they are selectively bred and kept in temperature controlled ponds from anything from 4 and 5lb fish up to early 30's before they are sold to syndicates or clubs who stock them. So far the most succesful strains of carp bred are called Simmo's after a hugely succesful and sought after breeder called Mark Simmonds from the Heather Fish Farm, who has nailed the genetics just right to ensure his carp can grow at phenominal rates, likewise Leney strain carp are much sought after.

    On the other side the UK have started a voluntary organisation to ensure we don't readily accept foreign carp in to our waters - particularly French and Belgium fish as we don't want our heritage weekend by foreign genes. There are several high profile day ticket waters in the UK that have imported fish so these are not as sought after by profile anglers. Much more weight is given to a british 30lb river capture or original estate lake fish like Redmire, than a 50lb'er that has been shipped in from abroad. Chilly and Jenks started echo - English Carp Heritage Organisation to try and ensure the original strains like King Carp weren't wiped out by being mixed with foriegn fish. I could go on but I'm bored :D Anyway, I wouldn't fish rainbow but I don't begrudge anyone who does the fishing ain't easy but there's big carp in there and I'd like to hook one but in different circumstances www.echocarp.co.uk

  5. Then it qualifies as a small lake :D (see note below..it's doubtful that it's that large anyway)

    That changes nothing of the fact that the fish is still a domestic fish, aquatic livestock "made" for the angling market.

    It's a form of managed entertainment, and the fishing analog to a high fenced hunting operation, which is fine..I again have not problem with anyone fishing there(or hunting the ranches)..but it's not IMO in any way comparable to a real, wild world record.

    Edited to add...I could find no reference to a different(larger) acre in Europe. I DID note that a hectare is 2.5 times the size of an acre..but the post said it was in acres, not hectares..

    So...it's STILL barely a lake!

    I know everything is bigger and better in the US than anywhere else but to my knowledge no Americans hav fished Rainbow yet, and as it's fished by europeans 125 acres is still a large piece of water to go at from 15 pegs. The stockings were made in the mid-90's so it's not as if carp were fattened up like McDonalds cows to a ripe old 60lb's and then released in to an overstocked pond to be cast at by a hundred anglers - there are many blank weeks from 3 rods so it can't be classed as easy. Every carp has been stocked from somewhere, you would truly hate fishing in the UK Nightwing as 99% of the fish have been stocked from breeders

  6. Tim Paisley has been writing a series of articles in the International Carper section of CW and they're quite interesting. Rainbow is 125 acres with 21 swims of which no more than 15 are fished at any one time which is a sizeable piece of water, it was a former carbon and sand quarry and is slightly brackish due to its proximity to the west coast so very rarely freezes. Due to the fact it's located in pine forests the PH of the water is down around 5 where optimal growth for carp is thought to be slightly alkaline with a PH of around 7.5-8. Pascal closes it for a week every February to dump 100 tonnes of Lyme in there which brings the PH level up about one for a period of time.

    The original stock back in the late eighties were from Brive but most of these are thought to have died off and 3 'subsequent stockings' have produced the fast growing fish. Tim alludes to the fact that these are farmed fish but I know the actual origins of these monsters have been kept a secret.

    So in total there are thought to be nearly 200 fish over 50lb with 3 that have gone 80, 8 that have gone 70 and over 30 that have gone 60+. Again Tim thinks that the lake is something of an ecological miracle in the fact that it used to be a carbon pit which is the basis of all life (carbon that is!) The fact it's slightly brackish meaning it rarely freezes so prolongs the natural feeding spells of the lakes inhabitants.

    I guess each individual will make their mind up on the validity of the Rainbow fish and the continuing records the venue will continue to spit out but 15 swims on a 125 acre lake isn't exactly paylake standards and regardless of the amount of bait that gets chucked in there on a weekly basis the mass of carp versus the amount of bait won't have a huge affect on the size of the fish. It's not my style of fishing at all but if I was offered a peg for a week I wouldn't turn it down

  7. Well i had to get down to the river tonight after work to try out all my new goodies that arrived today from Resistance Tackle... in the pack were some K1-Boilies (Pineapple Ice cream), ive been wanting to try some decent boilies for a while now to see how they go here on our wild Koi. Well im pleased to report that i got 2 tonight before i got dark and as far as i know its a first for K1 :D

    I know its not big but its a start!

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    Good work kidda, nice colouration on that too :D

  8. To answer your question is difficult without sounding like an advert...but here goes...
    :D mission accomplished!

    I'm fishing close to Chalon later on this summer with a friend who has been to the same island (clue!) 18 years on the run and has taken them to 70lb 12oz in the backwater. I hope you got that 50+ on film and look forward to watching it further in to the year.

  9. Yes, I still love the untapped virgins from vast expanses of water...so don't shoot me down just yet Marcus.

    :D Nice one Tony, looking forward to the next DVD just promise to can the panpipe as discussed :D Seriously though, good angling mate fish like that don't crawl up your line so you must've fished hard for it

    Looking forward to the French Rivers DVD I have several leads to follow on Rhone monsters around Lyon to 71lb to follow up over the coming couple of years so I'd be ineterested to see your tactics on this. If it hasn't been filmed yet then good luck and most importantly.....enjoy!

  10. Mostly for the UK Guys

    Football

    Jack Charlton (ex-football manager), Paul Gasgoine (football, Everton & England), Vinnie Jones (former football, now film star), Dave Seaman (football, Arsenal & England), Alex Manninger (football, Arsenal), Darren Eadie (football, Leicester City), Steve Guppy (football, Leicester City), Lee Bowyer (football, Leeds Utd.), Sergei Rebrov (football, Spurs).

    Other

    Ian Botham (former cricketer), Geoff Capes (ex-athletics), Barry McGuigan (boxing), Richie Woodhall (boxing, former WBC middleweight world champion), Alan Lamb (cricket), Nick Faldo (golf), Sam Torrence (golf), Robert Croft (England cricketer), Bobby George (darts), Gareth Edwards (ex-Rugby Union, Wales), Barry Hearn (sports promoter), Jeremy Guscott (Rugby Union, England), Andy Platt (Rugby League, Wigan), Mike Atherton (ex-England cricket captain), David Lloyd (former England cricket coach).

    Music

    George Mellee (jazz), Roger Daltrey (ex-The Who’), Eric Clapton (rock guitarist), Stuart Adamson (rock group, ‘Big Country’), Gary Brooker (ex-’Procul Harem’), Peter Watts (ex-’Mott the Hoople’), Roger Waters (ex-’Pink Floyd’), Richard Digance (singer/humorist), Max Bygraves (singer?), Robbie Williams (pop singer).

    Entertainment

    Bernard Cribbins (comedian), Chris Tarrant (comedian & TV compere), David Copperfield (comedian), Jim Davidson (comedian), Ronnie Corbett (comedian), Billy Connelly (comedian), Ted Hughes (poet), Diana Rigg (actress), Faith Brown (compere), Geoffrey Palmer (actor), Jim Bowen (compere), Phil Cool (comedian), Bobby Davro (entertainer), Paul Whitehouse (scriptwriter & comedian), Stan Boardman (comedian), Fiona Fullerton (actress).

    Media

    Garry Davies (DJ), Bruno Brookes (ex-DJ, TV presenter), Fiona Armstrong (newsreader), Jeremy Paxman (presenter), Loyd Grossman (presenter), Marco Pierre White (chef), Angela Ripon (presenter), Selina Scott (newsreader), Jenny Hanley (presenter), Max Hastings (editor), Julian Petifer (broadcaster & RSPB former President).

    as well as Prince Charles... and the Queen Mother was also a keen angler.

  11. Marcus, if that fish was truly an "apex" preditor, wouldn't it be hunting us?
    Not sure where you're going with that one matey..... in it's environment it isn't prey for anything so therefore is an apex predator and caught in the wrong situation it would see us as food.

    It's an odd one this, I know the views of a number of Americans lean towards the fact that if it can be killed then why not regardless of the rarety of the species. If you're pulling a couple of decent fish of different species out a year like Rob then it's pretty harmless. If we're killing a million tonnes of sharks a year in drift nets and deep see vacuum cleaners then yeah it's a problem. If you're an angler who marvels at the size of the quarry you seek then 9 times out of 10 you return that target species as unharmed - this kind of points to the fact that the IGFA need to change their rules on what constitues a record fish. In other words, if it's dead it ain't a record

  12. Really pleased to see the American carp scene getting the press it deserves, the ACS guys are making sure this scene stays in the limelight and deservedly so. Incidentally I have this copy of CW and the previous few months too, if anyone wants the last 4 issues or so I'm happy to send them free of charge just cost of postage to the US - bear in mind this may be 25-30 bucks but there's plenty to get your head around - PM me if you want them

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