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    Black and White

    in Pictures, Stories & Video

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    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results

    Ah, but there's a fallacy in your reasoning. Your technique and the location may be the same but the carp's behavior can be different so it's not a repetition of the same thing :icon_smoking::)

    But great looking carp!

    Pack versus method; not for the humor challenged

    in Pictures, Stories & Video

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    Please read this carefully. It says 12 ft. rod with all the bells and whistles. You have misread my statement.

    I stand corrected, I did indeed misread your statement. And you answered your posed question correctly for me...I do indeed believe that there are many different ways and tactics to catching big carp. I would never be so pompous and foolish to tell someone that they are doing it wrong because they don't do it exactly like me. Heck, my methods are completely wrong certain times because otherwise I wouldn't have blanked and failed.

    Pack versus method; not for the humor challenged

    in Pictures, Stories & Video

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    There is nothing wrong with buying all that stuff and fishing with the 12 ft rod with all the bells and whistles. This is a hobby , it's a recreational sport. What's wrong is closed mindedness. What's wrong is confusing complicated with effective. Tom's paylake set up is very sophisticated in that it takes advantage of the properties of a very few items in order to maximize the odds of hooking a carp. There are those that when they look at the paylake rig they are too close minded to see how it works effectively.They have become totally convinced that more is better. Just like they are too closed minded to believe that a simple pack bait can be just as effective as these european baits with tons of ingredients some of which are ridiculously exotic.

    I know you didn't call me closed minded personally but just making a general statement. But just so you know I am a very open minded person or at least try to be. And I know that paylaking techniques are very effective at what it does...catching lots of fish in a short period of time with simple baits and watching for bites/setting the hook. I don't argue or disagree with it's effectiveness but at the same time I also know that one style of carp fishing can't encapsulate all of carp fishing. To say one style IS carp fishing is closed minded. I know you didn't say that but it just seems you are so in love with paylaking that you want everyone to sell their UK 12' carp rods and for everyone to fish with ugly sticks and pack bait because it seems you believe that's all that's needed in carp fishing. Do you really believe that?

    And your statement "There is nothing wrong with buying all the stuff and fishing with the 12 ft rod with all the bells and whistles," implies your closed mindedness. 12 foot rods are not "bells and whistles" or extra fancy add ons". It can be the correct tool for distance fishing, not a bell and whistle. And I'm also going to assume based on your statement that you're not familiar with big carp angling where one sets the traps and wait for extended periods of time for one bite from "the big one." In this style of carp fishing, we need a remote bite indication system because I'm not going to sit there waiting for 8 hours staring at my rods the entire time. And in this style of fishing, I can't use a puff (or any soft bait for that matter) because it can be gone in seconds....I need a hard bait that will stay put so when the big carp comes along and falls for my traps, there will be a bait and hook waiting for him.

    So I think I'm a very open minded person because I accept that there are different styles and techniques in carp fishing. One style can't encapsulate all of carp fishing.

    Pack versus method; not for the humor challenged

    in Pictures, Stories & Video

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    I don't understand how a carp angler can be against UK fishing tackle. It's carp specific made for carp anglers by carp anglers. I do agree there's a lot of redundancy in the market but there really are some great products out there.

    If I was stuck to just using USA tackle, I can fish for carp successfully but it won't be as easy or convenient. I mean I'd have to make my own spod or bait up with a boat if I couldn't buy a UK spod from Korda or Fox. I'd have to crush my own boilies by hand or with kitchen gadgets rather than using a boilie specific portable Korda Krusher which fits in my hand or the Korda Kutter to slice up my boilies in half in seconds on the bank...these tools although not needed make my life easier and saves me a lot of time.

    And UK carp rods are fantastic. They are light, slim, and have a lot of backbone to cast heavy method balls 80+ yards and yet have a nice tip for playing carp. I can do this with USA surf rods but for the same lightness and quality, I'd have to pay more for higher quality surf blanks. Modern surf rods are very much like UK carp rods except they are a lot more expensive.

    And what about pods and remote alarms. Because of a remote, I can be away from my rods to get something from my car or speak to a friend, etc. If the Brits never invented a carp specific alarm, I would have had to buy a walkie talkie and modify it to make my own...how inconvenient and time consuming that would have been.

    How (WHERE!) to catch new Michigan record carp

    in Beginning Carping

    Posted

    Your right Mike, we have so many waters over here in michigan that we would never be able to scratch the surface of what we have. I have lakes that I want to fish that I have seen huge carp out of but they are either completly private, or they are simply to far of a drive for me to make at the moment. As you said if we had more anglers around it would help out tremendously.

    You are right Austin. Getting to waters is itself a challenge and time consuming because our waters are just too big.

    If anyone is serious about breaking the state record on purpose, I think it will require fishing full time because trying to catch big carp is a real challenge. Not only in tactics but scouting and researching and just getting a feel and understanding the water. All very time consuming. A boat would seriously help to actually get to the fish as well. Otherwise one will be limited to certain seasons because big carp move and can be very nomadic as well. In places I've fished that was definitely the case. Without a boat the window of opportunity was very limited for me.

    Just my opinion.

    How (WHERE!) to catch new Michigan record carp

    in Beginning Carping

    Posted

    I just hope that the Michigan record books don't have to start delineating species of carp--no offense to fans of grass carp and such, but I really don't want to see an entry for them or for silver or bighead, although I'm thinking the day will come. Common carp supply enough sport, no?

    We don't advocate all the other "carps" but only the species cyprinus carpio (common carp, mirror carp, and koi carp).

    Grass carp, big head carp, silver carp, black carp, etc... are not carp. They really should change those names but I don't think that's going to happen...

    How (WHERE!) to catch new Michigan record carp

    in Beginning Carping

    Posted

    Not fish more, fish differently. :ph34r:

    An increase by 1,000,000 new carp anglers would be a good start...even better would be if they understood big carp tactics but that's asking too much. A simple increase in just the number of carp anglers will still produce big carp. I've mellowed out a lot over the years :Old: and am no longer such a strong advocate of big carp thinking and tactics :) .

    How (WHERE!) to catch new Michigan record carp

    in Beginning Carping

    Posted

    I'm not from Michigan but can I chime in? :sorry::lol:

    61.5 lbs would be very tough to beat but certainly not impossible. Even to this day, nobody really knows the potential of our waters because there's only 100 carp anglers in the entire USA lol. No but seriously, there isn't enough carp anglers to cover the uncountable waters that's available. I mean even if the entire CAG started fishing Michigan, we still wouldn't be able to scratch the surface. Forget the 11,000 Michigan lakes....let's focus on just ONE Michigan lake....the entire CAG wouldn't be able to uncover even just one of the Great Lakes.

    As more and more people start fishing seriously for carp in the USA (God knows when that day will be...probably never), I don't think 30s will be special anymore. I know that sounds crazy, but we are such small group (a speck in American angling). I really believe that 40s and 50s are a lot more common than we think.

    People just need to fish more....that's the answer.

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