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  1. I nearly forgot about this one -- and it happened just last year. Short-term memory loss, I suppose. :Old:

    Tim Lewis and I were fishing at West Bank Park one day last June, not too long after the heavy rain that forced us to cancel our late-May fish-in. There was still a lot of water covering the walkway where we usually fished, so that day we were fishing a spot in another part of the park, in a cove at the back end of a 50-yard point that extends toward the open water.

    I don't recall whether we caught any carp that morning or not, but some time after noon, a young couple walked up and asked if we would mind if they went out to the end of the point. They had a cooler and a basket, so we assumed they just wanted a nice spot to have a picnic. That certainly wouldn't bother us, and we appreciated that they even bothered to ask, so we told then to go right ahead. Maybe an hour later Tim packed up and left for home, but I decided to fish a while longer.

    Not long after Tim left, I noticed a disturbance in the water near the edge of my swim. When I looked closer, the young lady was wading, and wearing a very skimpy two-piece swim suit. A few minutes later, her companion (boyfriend ? husband ?) also got in the water and they both began swimming. I don't think they realized that they were swimming less than 10 feet from where I was fishing. After they had swum for about 15 minutes or so, they dried off and left.

    I stayed a while longer, but needless to say, I didn't catch any carp there the rest of the day. NO --> :swimminfish:

    But, since they had been courteous enough to ask if we minded, I couldn't really complain,

    Plus the view wasn't "exactly terrible", either! :rolleyes:

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  2. This year CAG is providing sets of three very nice Olympic-style medals (gold, silver, bronze) for use as awards for some of our events. Before I continue, I want to thank Andy and the Board of Directors for making these available.

    Partly because of the size of our state, it is often difficult to get good participation at fish-ins, so I felt it would be better to use our state's medals to recognize the most "outstanding" individual fish caught any time this year, anywhere in the state of Georgia . I chose the word "outstanding" intentionally, because it is such a vague term. It could certainly be used to describe a big fish -- but it might also apply to a unique or a particularly unusual specimen that isn't especially big. Thus, an unusual 5-pound koi, or a small but very pretty mirror, could receive as much consideration as a 20-pound common or a 30-pound grasser.

    The rules are simple:

    1a. As already noted, only fish caught in the state of Georgia are eligible. Georgia residents, as well as legal non-resident anglers, will be allowed to submit entries.

    1b. The contest is NOT limited to members of CAG. To submit entries, anglers who are not members of CAG or who have not yet registered to post on the Forum can simply register as a forum guest. While joining CAG is certainly encouraged, it is optional, and is not a consideration for these awards.

    2. Entries will be posted by replying to this thread. The reply should include: the angler's name; the date and general location of the catch; the fish's length and/or weight (if necessary, a 'reasonable guess' will do); and the "bait" used (include just as many details as you're comfortable with -- it's not necessary to give away secrets -- "corn", "doughball", "boilies", or "puff and pack bait" would all be fine, even with no other details). But the reply must include a photograph of the fish (which can also include the angler, or not). Of course you are free to provide more details about your catch if you wish.

    3, Entries are limited to various types/species of carp -- common, mirror, leather, koi, goldfish, and grass carp (White Amur). -- and must be legally caught using acceptable and sporting methods of angling angling (rod & reel, single hook).

    4. The fish can be caught in any body of water in GA where fishing is legal, including lakes, ponds, streams, rivers, pay lakes, public, or private, etc.

    5. Any indication that the fish was mistreated or was not handled with care and respect will disqualify the entry.

    Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

    The method of determining the winners is still TBD -- maybe by a vote (I would break any ties), maybe I'll just select the winners myself, or maybe later in the year I'll think of another/better way to decide. Regardless, I've already disqualified myself from consideration for any awards.

    After I get the medals from Andy, I'll post some photos so you'll know what you're competing for,

    Entries are now open. Good luck to all!

    -- Barry Shildneck, State Chair

  3. Barry, I got the FI on my calendar. I'll need to run down to Academy Sports in Dalton and use my gift card for a GA license. Two trips to GA will more than pay for the license. Need to fish with you guys east of Atlanta and with the Ol' Captain and the Crew in west Atlanta.

    What time does the park close? I might come down and do a bare-bones camping trip the night before.

    West Bank Park is a Corps of Engineers "Day-Use" park -- no camping there. I think the park closes "at dark" -- or maybe at some set time (10 PM??). However, if you Google "Lake Lanier", I believe there is camping available at other C-of-E sites on the lake, within a mile or two of WB Park.

    Let me know if you can't find what you're looking for, and I'll look into it from here.

  4. I've received several positive replies to date, and no other suggestions, so -- unless the water level rises or drops drastically -- the venue for the fish-in will be West bank Park at Lake Lanier. We will fish from the paved walkway on the south side of the park below the restroom.

    Just past the restroom there is a decent-sized parking area on the right, which has several paved paths down to the water. At the water's edge, the walkway has a rail about 3 or 4 feet high, made from pipes about 2" in diameter. The rails can make it difficult to use most non-adjustable pods. Also, because the walkway is paved, you won't be able to use banksticks unless you can attach them directly to the pipes (possibly using cable ties or Velcro). As long as the water level doesn't drop below about 1070 feet (1 foot below full pool), a standard long-handled net should be fine for landing your fish. If you're curious, you can monitor the lake level HERE: http://lanier.uslakes.info/Level.asp

    I plan to give it a try next week, and will take some photos and post them so you can see the layout. As the fish-in date gets closer, I'll also try to do a bit of pre-baiting.

  5. C'mon Barry, just admit it, doughball rules. B)

    LOL !!!

    I've reserved a "special spot in my heart" for them. I just didn't mention that in my post. :rolleyes:

    After all, EVERY carp I've ever caught over 25 pounds has been on a doughball of some description.

    Even today, I have been known to pull some doughballs out of my bag of tricks now and then, and I'll occasionally still catch on them.

  6. Getting back to the original question of the "best bait"... I've been fishing for more than 60 years, 50 of which I've fished for carp.

    As many have already stated, there is NO "best bait" that covers all conditions. Personally, I've caught carp on worms, canned corn (flavored and unflavored), canned peas, canned hominy, sweet corn that I cut directly off the cob, maize (dry, soaked, boiled and soaked, and both flavored and unflavored), and even on ripe mulberries. I've caught them on home made (and cooked) dough balls, dough bait made simply by kneading a handful of oatmeal that I soaked in lake water, and on home made boilies (I've never used commercial boilies). I've also caught carp on corn puffs, Fruit Loops, and on other breakfast cereals. I've successfully used many of these both alone, and with method, with pack bait, or using PVA bags or stringers.

    I caught all my biggest carp many years ago on very large dough balls (50-60 mm). But I caught them at a time when I lived less than an hour from a section of the Potomac River known for its big carp. I certainly wouldn't rate those dough balls as the "best" bait merely because I caught my biggest fish on them -- there were other significant factors involved besides my bait choice (location being the most obvious). At that time, a carp fisherman had few choices -- usually limited to corn or dough balls. Had we been aware of boilies or puffs in those days, I suspect that I could have caught some of my biggest fish using those baits as well.

    It is my opinion that the "best bait" is the bait (or combination/fishing method) that instills the most confidence in the individual angler, based on his/her personal experience and knowledge, and his/her analysis of the present conditions.

  7. NOTE: I'm posting this here for increased visibility -- the same info is posted on the CAG Calendar.

    It "just feels right" to hold a fish-in on the first Saturday of Spring. As of now, I haven't yet decided on a venue, but for now, I'm leaning toward West Bank Park at Lake Lanier.

    WBP has plenty of bank space along the paved walkway. There are a number of concrete picnic tables, permanent charcoal grills, and a nearby public restroom. Also, the lake level has remained at "full pool" all winter. Unless that changes drastically, the area should be easily fishable. Note: this is a Corps of Engineers park, so there is a $4 or $5 daily parking fee per vehicle unless you purchased the annual parking pass. The gate to the park opens at 8:00 AM.

    However, since Spring is nearly 6 weeks away, I want to keep our options open for other venues. I'd appreciate any and all other suggestions. If you have any good ideas, please PM me or e-mail me -- bshildn@yahoo.com.

  8. I'm still waiting for my copy, too. But based on the past performance of my local Post Office, that's not too surprising. I've lost all confidence in them. A few examples:

    Last week I received two months' worth of Readers Digests on the same day. Some years ago I was expecting a check that was more than 2 weeks late, so the company reissued it. The second check arrived just fine. But three weeks after I got the reissued check, the first one finally arrived (5 weeks total). A couple years ago I mailed a bill payment, and a few days later, the P.O. returned half of an empty envelope to me (the part with the return address). Since they had destroyed the envelope and my check was missing, I asked them to pay my bank's "stop payment" fee -- which they refused to do. After that, I started paying all my bills on line, and asking for an electronic funds transfer any time a company sends me money. Also, I constantly get "junk mail" ads and coupons for deals that have already expired.

    :really angry: :really angry: :really angry:

    I'm sure my copy will arrive -- someday.

  9. Back in the mid-1970's, we were members of a very small church that hired a seminary student to fill our pulpit while we searched for a full time pastor. The young man loved to fish, so I took him crappie fishing one night in my small boat. When we got to the lake, we discovered a problem with my outboard motor. Luckily, we ran into another guy there who had been a co-worker of mine at a previous job, and he offered to tow us to a nearby spot where we could fish, and still be within paddling distance of a second boat ramp that was within a short walk from where I had parked the truck. Despite our motor trouble, we'd still get in our night of fishing.

    So far, so good, right? Well....

    While he was giving us a tow, he volunteered that he had been "let go" by our former employer. From his point of view, his termination wasn't justified and was unfair. (I suspect it was unfair, and probably would end up in court today. He had extremely bad eyesight, and the company was probably trying to avoid paying for his likely future medical expenses. But I digress.) As we moved across the water, he became more and more agitated about the way the company had treated him. And to put it mildly, from there on, "his language deteriorated significantly". His side of the conversation was all about those "#%@%& SOBs" at that "!*$^#!@# Company" -- and worse.

    Earlier, he had already asked me how I had been doing and where I was working. But I guess he also felt obliged to ask my friend where he worked. After all the cussing and "blue language", my friend tried to minimize the guy's embarrassment. He replied (evasively, but truthfully) -- and not just once, but twice -- that he was "in school" and was "working at a temporary summer job".

    But the guy was persistent and just wouldn't drop the subject. So he asked again, more specifically, "What kind of work do you do?".

    His jaw dropped and his face turned almost purple when my friend responded, "I'm Barry's pastor".

  10. Nice post, Dunkel! This topic is certainly worth thinking about, especially during this cold spell.

    I caught two of my PB catfish on carp baits (32 lb flathead on rice pack and a puff, and a 24 lb channel on boilies).

    Conversely, I was fishing in a carp & catfish pay lake about 30 years ago, using my favorite doughballs for carp on two rods, and decided to mix some shrimp-flavored cat food with dry oats and cornmeal to make some catfish bait for my third rod. Funny thing, I caught all my carp on that shrimp-flavored dough, but not a single catfish, and I've never caught another carp on that bait since that day.

    However, IMO, these were just noteworthy exceptions to what's normal, and the ONLY thing they prove is that when discussing what will make a fish bite,"nothing is absolute".

  11. Start with a touch or two of (what might be) personal animosity; throw in a bit of logical -- maybe even rational -- thought; then add a few friendly back-and-forth jabs here and there; follow it with a smattering of interesting -- maybe helpful -- carping advice thrown into the mix. Spread this liberally over more than 10 dozen posts, and 10 days.

    What a great way to spend the winter when it's too cold and nasty to fish! You gotta love this stuff!!!

    :bigsmile:

  12. If you're going to be fishing where you expect to get hung and lose a lot of tackle, you seriously need to learn to tie your own. It'll get pretty expensive otherwise, replacing lost rigs with "ready-made" ones.

    That said, like others already suggested, you can check out the Vendors section of the Forum and buy what you need to get started. After you've seen first hand how the rigs are made, you can order supplies to make your own. Not only will that save you money, but you can customize the rigs to suit yourself.

  13. Since I'm older than a lot of you, I've been fishing long enough to have a number of (somewhat) humorous stories. Please bear with me, and let me know if I'm posting too many. :Old:

    This one isn't exactly hilarious, but it certainly had its funny moments while it was playing out.
    It was the summer of 1966 (I remember, because I turned 21 that year, and I was able to buy beer - legally). A friend and occasional fishing buddy had heard about another friend and I catching some big carp in the Potomac, and wanted to go with me. The opportunity came up one Friday evening. But we lived in PA, and the fishing venue was across the line in MD. I had a non-res license, but he didn't -- and being late Friday, there was no way he could get one on short notice (in those days, non-res licenses had to be bought from the county office), so he borrowed one from another friend. No, we shouldn't have done that, but we did cut some corners in the interest of time and convenience. Luckily we didn't get checked that trip. :rolleyes:
    Back then I owned several rods and reels that worked ok for carp fishing (nothing like the 12 foot rods and fancy reels we use today). But my friend had only one baitcaster and an old beat-up Zebco 202 reel, spooled with 6 pound test he used for occasional trout fishing. I grabbed an old 6-foot solid glass spinning rod for him to use with his Zebco, and off we went.
    As fate would have it, our only run that night came on my rod with my buddy's little Zebco. He hooked the carp, and promptly discovered two things: (1) the fish was big, and (2) the drag didn't work on the Zebco 202. The only way he could play the fish was to press the release button and feed the fish line through his fingers (OUCH!!!), and then reel if and when the fish gave him a chance to recover some line. Fortunately, he was a pretty tough guy, and was able to tolerate quite a bit of pain. (Naturally, during the fight there were more than a few howls of pain -- and some language used that I won't repeat here in case any of our junior members read this.) :huh:
    The battle went back and forth for quite some time -- remember, the reel only had 6 pound line, and he was fighting a large fish without the benefit of a drag. And not once, but twice, the carp spooled him. But both times the fish decided to turn back toward shore instead of giving one more kick in the opposite direction -- which certainly would have broken the line. Eventually, even though his hands had become a bloody mess, he managed to lead the carp into the net. We had no scale, but we did measure the fish -- a very nice 36" common. :swimminfish:
    You may have heard the expression, "Death by a thousand paper cuts"... This was "Carp by (at least) 50 line cuts". After we released the carp, we poured some beer over his hands to clean them. The beer -- or maybe the carp slime -- must have done the trick, because his hands healed in just a few days with no infection.
  14. Zatesta's story reminded me of an incident from nearly 50 years ago, when I was fishing at a paylake in southern PA. We were enjoying catching a few carp one Saturday afternoon. Being the weekend, the lake had a number of "occasional" fishermen who had no clue about carp fishing, so they were using worms and not catching much. We were chatting with the group fishing next to us, and offered to share our bait (doughballs) and a few suggestions. One young guy tried some of my home made dough, cast out, and just laid his rod down at the edge of the water. I warned him to anchor the rod to prevent a biting carp from pulling it in the water, and also suggested loosening his drag. Next thing I knew, his lightweight webbed lawn chair was skidding across the ground, with a rod handle stuck in the webbing of the seat and the rod bent sharply across the chair's back. The chair -- and the rod and reel -- all went flying into the lake. Fortunately, it was only about 3 feet deep at that point, so the guy ran into the water chasing his chair and rod. He was lucky enough to reach them before the carp got too far from shore and into deeper water. I seem to recall that he even managed to land the fish, but that was a looonngg time ago, and I can't remember that detail for sure. :Old:

    Anyway, we got a real charge out of watching that carp pull his chair and rod across about 10 or 15 feet of bank and into the water, and then watching him chase them into the lake.

  15. I don't do much -- if any -- long range fishing, so I've been using a 12-foot telescoping surf rod I bought online about 10 years ago for my spod rod. I seem to recall that I got it from Cabela's for about $25.00 -- of course they aren't one of our sponsors, so if the advantages of a telescoping rod interest you, I'd suggest that you first check with the folks that support the organization to see if they carry them.

    I also have (and regularly use) a pair of 12-foot MadDragons that I really like. There are better rods out there for certain situations -- and especially for extreme long range fishing -- but for an old retired guy like me, the MadDragons do just fine for my needs.

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