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At John's suggestion, I did a Google search. From what I found on the internet, so far the spread of CEV appears to be limited to Europe and to Asian koi.
That doesn't mean that it isn't here. But if it is, I found nothing on the Web referring to its existence in North America.
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The Lake Oconee (Georgia) carp kill occurred approximately in mid-MAY, and was at least partly blamed on stress from spawning.
The following is part of a statement from the state DNR issued roughly May 20, 2015:
"...a WRD fisheries biologist says the highest concentration of dead carp has been in the Sugar Creek area and northward toward I-20.
“Common carp have been aggressively spawning at Lake Oconee over the last few weeks, resulting in additional energy consumption and stress, and weakening a fish’s immune system allowing bacterial or viral infections to more readily occur, often causing fish death,” said Nelson. “No other fish have been affected. There are a few diseases and viruses that are known to primarily infect common carp.”
The statement included no specifics regarding those "few diseases that are known to primarily infect carp", so I can't say if the "carp edema virus" was involved in that incident.
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Have you considered "line watching" instead of using a float? When I was fishing in TN earlier this week with "cannonball", I managed to hook up with some buffs by closely watching my line and attempting to set the hook while the fish was moving the slack line in and out. Of course I missed at least 80% of what I thought were bites, but I did connect with some decent buffs, too.
Email sent with more detail....
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Earlier this summer, there was some sort of fish kill here in Georgia at Lake Oconee that (I believe) only affected carp. I don't recall exactly what the cause was, but I believe it was some sort of biological issue, PERHAPS the virus you mentioned.
I'll do some follow-up and report what I find.
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Wow! A 20+ common and a PB grasser on your BIRTHDAY!!!
That's a birthday that will be hard to beat.
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For the third year in a row, it has been my pleasure to visit Cleveland TN, to fish with John Torchick on his home water, the Hiwassee River, near Calhoun.
The first year, we fished one day across the river at Charleston, but we discovered that when the water is low (after the fall draw-down at Chickamauga Lake, it gets a bit dicey for two "chronologically gifted" guys like us
to be climbing down the rocks to net a fish (there's a lot of rip-rap). So after just one day, we started fishing below the Calhoun boat ramp, where there's a nice, level wooden dock to fish from.After sharing a nice Meal with our wives Monday evening, John picked me up bright and early Tuesday morning. We were met at the ramp by a friend of John's, Kevin Felton, a retired police officer, whom John met through the TN Hunter Education safety program, where they both serve as instructors. Kevin is one of those 'TROUT' (ugh) fishermen
and before Tuesday had never caught a carp. John and I were determined to correct that before the day was over.We enjoyed fairly steady action most of the day, and we all caught some fish. I only caught 3 or 4 smallmouth buffalo (none were double-digit fish), but Kevin caught both a buff and a common. His common was over 12 pounds, and his buff close to 15. Not too shabby for a trout fisherman. Maybe John can make him a convert!!! John caught a nice mid-teen common as well as some buffs.
On Wednesday John and I got another early start, and were at the dock as the sun was burning through the morning fog. Kevin didn't join us to fish, but he did drop by later for a couple hours to share some more time on the bank with us.
As with the day before, action was steady, but not fast. Last year, I had discovered that the buffalo usually bite quite differently from the commons. They often just mouth and "suck" the bait, and seldom ever actually run with it, as carp often do. Nearly every few minutes, I found myself trying to set the hook on (what I assumed were) "buff bites". I missed many of those bites, but I did manage to "stick" a few of them, and landed most of the ones I hooked. John and I had a lot of fun, and we both caught both carp and buffs again on Wednesday -- and I even managed to land a 13-pound channel cat. By the numbers, we caught at least two buffs for every carp -- probably more.
Just before time to wrap things up, I had a nice run, and while fighting my fish, John had one, too. Unfortunately, he lost his fish, but mine turned out to be the biggest fish of the two days, a pretty common weighing a bit over 16 lbs.
Even though we didn't catch any huge fish, every fish we landed in the two days was a quality, double-digit fish, with several in the mid-teens (except for those small buffs I caught the first day). All in all it was a very respectable session, and a LOT of fun.
The only negative was the number of lost fish. We had a few hook pulls, and even a couple lost (presumably) because of bad knots. But I believe the bulk of the lost fish were the result of snags -- in spots where there were no snags last year. But this is a river, after all, and "stuff" does float downstream -- so snags can and do change locations over time.
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Nice session, nice fish, nice photos.
Welcome to CAG!!
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Nice fish and good photos -- especially considering that you didn't have your personal photographer!
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Nice going guys. You REALLY know how to have a fish-in. Those mirrors were beautiful. And, I thought we only had them in RI!
Salacoa is the only place that I know in this area that has mirrors -- at least in numbers. In several trips there last year, roughly every 3rd or 4th carp we caught was a mirror.
I think the chance for a mirror is why the guys keep coming back (I'm sure they don't just come for the hot dogs
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Day One of the fish-in turned out to be a truly international event. In spite of some very heavy rain overnight, and intermittent showers almost all morning long, we had eight anglers who turned out for the event. Besides myself, representing the "good ole boys" of the South were Lance Clements, John Torchick, and David "double-D" Dodway. By way of the UK, we had Tony Locke, and hailing from Romania was Radu Ghelmez. Radu brought his fishing buddy, Gudni, who came from Iceland, via the UK, and their friend (my apologies, I don't have the correct spelling of his name), whom I'll call "Rolf", for now. (Note: I'll blame Radu for not emailing me the spelling
it seems like a good excuse, anyhow). "Rolf" is also here from Iceland. He, Radu, and Gudni all work for the same company in the IT department.As noted, the day began on a very soggy note, with umbrellas and rain gear seen all along the bank. But between the showers, we did manage to catch some carp. John started off the day with a pretty scaled mirror that flopped out of the net and back into the water before we could get a photo. Three guys seemed to be catching more than the rest of us -- Tony did well with his lighter tackle and British methods, as did Radu (they were fishing at extreme opposite ends of the group). But right in the middle was David Dodway, who also caught a number of fish. I believe everyone caught at least one carp (Rolf even caught his first ever carp -- congrats!), and I even managed to catch two -- I got the second one while the first one was still on the bank. John kidded me about that -- he pointed out that I could have showed up for 15 minutes and caught my two carp and gone home, instead of being there for two full days.
THANKS, John!Gudni even broke out a fly rod, hoping to catch a carp. But after some frustration, he did manage to catch a number of TINY bluegills, while he was waiting for a carp to bite (on his conventional carp gear).
We fixed a quick hot dog & chips lunch for everyone, so nobody went home starving.
At least there was no excuse if they did.After lunch the weather broke, and the sun came out the rest of the day. More fish were caught, including several more scaled mirrors. Tony even managed to catch 4 or 5 turtles (one was a 12 or 13 pound soft shell turtle -- see photos). The last fish of the day was a nice channel cat, caught by John.
The group started to break up about 4 PM, and by about 5, everyone was packed up. I was the last to leave, and fortunately, John has still in the park when I discovered that I had left my lights on and had a dead battery -- OOPS!!!
But all's well that ends well, and after a jump start, we were all safely on our way home.Everyone seemed to have a good time, and when all is said and done, THAT is what a fish-in is all about!
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The "official" Georgia Fall Fish-in was scheduled for Saturday. Oct. 10. Several of us had planned to meet on Friday to prebait, to do a little fishing, and hopefully, to give the fish some exercise so they'd be ready to fight on Saturday.
As things worked out, we were joined on Friday by three anglers who couldn't arrange their schedules to make it on Saturday, so we welcomed their fine company. As this turned into a "pre-fish-in Fish-in", I'll do my best to keep things straight, and post my photos as "Day Zero" and "Day One" of the fish-in.
Fishing on Day Zero were John "Cannonball" Torchick, Lance "Easymoney" Clements, Horace "Ol Captain" LaFavor, Jim "Hatman" Hatter, Johnny "carpchaser" Cochran, and myself. Lest I forget, we were also in the presence of the famous MAX (aka "the Ultimate Carp Hound"). Lance brought his canoe to simplify the prebaiting process, but then his day was cut short because of a minor family emergency. He never got to wet a line until he returned on Saturday.
In spite of a few intermittent showers, the fishing was fine, and the bank talk enjoyable, as always (what would you expect with five guys in their 60s and 70s). But the catching wasn't all that great. The five of us only managed to land three carp, one each for John, Horace (a pretty mirror), and Jim. Catching was so slow that I failed to get a single picture of Max performing "L&R". Hopefully that'll happen next time.
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FWIW, I tie a long loop for a hair rig so I can slide on corn, boilie or whatever and don't have to slide it over a knot. The knot is about halfway up the shank of the hook. BTW, I tied some hair rigs recently.......they are my first so this is kind of an experiment.
That's my preference, too. I started tying hair rigs with fairly heavy braid, and the knot was tearing up my baits. With a loop. even though the "hair" is a double strand, there's no knot to tear up your bait.
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Absolutely! After swapping all those PMs and emails, I was happy to finally meet you in person.
I will make it a point to get together with you again -- and with any of the rest of the guys whose schedules allow some bank time.
I apologize for not having posted a write-up on the fish-in yet. I found time to offload my photos, but keeping the grandsons today meant NOT having time to organize my thoughts. I will do it asap!
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Final reminder for the Georgia Fall Fish-in, this Saturday, October 10 (details above at the top of this thread).
I won't be home the rest of today, and will be at the lake tomorrow, to prebait.
There's a chance of showers Friday evening and overnight, but they should end by morning. We're supposed to have a nice fall day, with high temps in the low to mid 70s.
Hope everyone who signed up can make it.
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Wow! Amazing session!
Congrats!
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Remember the Georgia Fall Fish-in this Saturday.
There's an outside chance we could have as many as a dozen anglers Saturday. If it happens, it would be great !!!
There's a grill in the parking lot, so I'm bringing hot dogs -- I bought 4 packs, so there will be plenty for everyone. BTW -- If you want anything more than mustard or ketchup on your dogs, bring it yourself.
NOTE: There will be at least 3 or 4 of us there on Friday, as well. We'll be pre-baiting for Saturday -- and fishing some, too, of course.
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Great !!!
Thanks for posting the list, Horace.
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Don't forget the Georgia Fall Fish-in next Saturday (10/10/15) at Salacoa Creek Park.
If it holds, the weather forecast looks promising -- partly cloudy, mid-70's.
So far I have "tentative commitments" for 8 or 9 anglers. Those are people who plan to come unless work or an emergency interferes.
If you plan to be there and haven't already told me, please let me know, so I'll have a rough head count. THANKS !!!
Hope to see you there.
-- Barry
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If "needing a second net", and "needing a buddy to take your photos" are the worst problems you ever have to deal with, you'll be fine !!!
Nice Job.
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I sometimes get lax about reel care, which is one reason I don't spend big bucks on mine. I've been carp fishing for more than 50 years -- before the advent of baitrunner reels, so I learned to adjust my drag -- looser, when waiting for a run, and tighter, when fighting a fish. That lets me get away with using "decent quality", but much less expensive, reels. I do try to clean and oil them from time to time, but if I forget and ruin one, it doesn't cost me a fortune to replace it.
OH -- and I try to make a point of at least wiping off the pack bait at the end of a session.
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... I just discovered some old bread in our freezer. It's going to the fish-in in Georgia next week! ...
Thanks for the reminder, John. I have a loaf of old bread, and some bread crumbs that I processed in the blender, stored in the fridge.
I need to add that to my list of stuff to bring along to the fish-in next weekend.
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Well deserved! Congrats, Horace!
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That's exactly the kind of help I was asking for.
Thanks, guys.
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Welcome to CAG. Looking forward to seeing more photos of your fish.
You'll find that the Forum is a good place to pick up lots of info (and opinions
) about carp fishing. Even better, it's a great place to meet new friends and fishing buddies.
If you lived just a little closer, I'd invite you to our GA fish-in on Oct 10th. We're not going to be too far from the TN line, but even so, you'd still have about a 3-4 hour drive from Newport.
TUF Line XP Braid
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My only experience with braid was when I tried SpiderWire Stealth several years ago. It seemed to work great everywhere.... Until I fished with "Cannonball" in the Hiwassee River in Tennessee several years ago.
I landed the first carp I hooked, but then proceeded to break off all my next four runs. Every one of those fish "escaped" because my line had extremely poor abrasion resistance. It simply parted. The fourth fish actually broke off during the initial run (the initial strike/bite). I never even hooked the fish -- when I lifted my rod from the pod, the line had already separated.
I like the extra casting distance and positive "feel" that braid offers (thinner diameter, less stretch). But rather than lose fish due to my line breaking from abrasion, I've since gone back to fishing with mono exclusively. But if Tuf-Line is really as good as you say, maybe I'll try it and give braid another shot.