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  1. Thanks, any idea why they don't get any bigger? I assume there's too much carp in that lake compared to the natural available food? Are there any channel cats?

    Is it not more likely the bigger ones just haven't been caught yet?

    Can't see this lake getting a lot of pressure?

  2. PA only allows non-reproducing triploid grassies for weed control -- big, but rare. I never had the pleasure. How Louis managed to get one in a river, still amazes me -- pond escapee, I guess.

    Sorry, the biggest Philly flatties are around 40, but they get bigger every year & I'm VERY curious to see where they top out.

    Mario,

    The best I can do, is this:

    http://www.fishinginfo.ru/index.php?CLID=1...78357-default-1

    I'm sure there are a couple CAG members that can read Russian & will tell you that I didn't make it up. If it's B/S, I ain't the source -- just a relay. Looks like a reasonably respectable site. Now that I've figured out how to get Cyrillic characters into my browser, I'll try to find confirmation from other sources.

    The article is from the late 1980's & the 68kg fish mentioned, is from the early 1980's. It pretty much sneers at the Western Carp Records, states that 40kg commons (wild) "are not too much of a rarity" & claims historical references to wild commons up to 1.5m, 100 yrs. earlier. It also mentions a particularly humpy, localized wild strain that's smaller than US carp.

    I still don't understand why you're so incredulous, though. Face it, Uncle Sammy imported the sturdiest, most adaptable, most easily obtained strain of carp for food -- NOT the biggest & best sport fish. IMHO a 200 lb. common would be possible, if it weren't for the Commies' horrible industrial pollution & atrocious ecological mismanagement. Siberia is just one of those places where you catch it, you cook it, you eat it -- PERIOD! If it tastes really nasty, you mulch it up in your garden.

    When the Coelacanth was first "discovered", it was photographed in an African market stall.

    Just hit translate on the google toolbar.

    In the middle of Russia, especially in the Baltic Sea basin, this river carp is quite rare. Here prevails pond carp, divorced late last and early this century in many large ponds of the Great Polish and estates, and from there, b. h. accident, having gone to secondary rivers and there to multiply. This pond carp used. am of German descent and differs from the river and a darker green color of its scales, a width of less blunt snout, with even more severe fracture to the back than in the medulla of carp, and most importantly - extraordinary stamina, what is much greater than the present river carp, or Korop which multiplies in stagnant ponds rarely. In the rivers of the Baltic basin, as in the Moscow River, Upa and many others, even in the upper reaches of the Don, Voronezh occurs, apparently, almost exclusively German carp, some places already mixed with the indigenous species and their ancestor - carp.

    In the present Carp - pond and river, how he and the other sometimes reach enormous size, as none of the other cyprinid fishes, and old age. The largest of the modern carp we had 55 kg. This giant, according to SN Alferaki, was caught on hooks in 80 kilometers from Taganrog, on the curve of the spit. Years 7 - ago, ie in the early eighties, in r.Voronezhe, Lebedyanskiy County, fell into the dragnet, according to witnesses who handed this fact known Moscow hunters and fishermen AA Beer, a huge and yet unusually ugly carp. He pulled 68 kg, but had kind of meter cut-off almost 70 centimeters wide. Lake, especially carp pond in Western Europe are unlikely to reach such large sizes, as this river and sea carp in South-Eastern Europe. The largest carp, known from the foreign literature, do not exceed 44 kg and originating from Lake Zurich in Switzerland. Famous carp (from the Oder), which, from the words of Bloch states in all foreign works on the fish, weighed only 28 kg and was taken back in 1711. 16-kilogram and 24 kilogram carp are found in our many large and small rivers of southern Russia and does not constitute curiosity. Volga carp generally smaller Nizhnedneprovsk and now rarely reach the 16-pound weight, which causes intense fishing. About a hundred years ago, according to Pallas, in the Caspian Sea met carp up to 1,5 m in length.

    It goes without saying that such huge fish had lived for many years. Indeed, there is reliable information about the pond carp, have reached not only a century or even two hundred years of age. Carp ponds Ponshartrena had, according to Buffon, 150 years, and Sharlotenburgskim (near Berlin) was more than 200, the last seems to be intact and present. Are you meeting carp such a great age - to be very questionable, but probably, and we have some specific Ponds estate near St. Petersburg and in the composition of the Polish magnates there are century-old carp.

  3. Very legit fish as has been noted.

    That said the guy probably wasn't fishing for or expecting a brown at all. If I recall correctly he was throwing stick baits for salmon in the Big Manistee river on a guided trip. This would be a Lake Mi fish that , like the salmon, come into the rivers to spawn in the fall. Hear stories and see some big browns from the lake in both the spring (they come in to feed on the running smelt) and fall but obviously none as big as this monster.

    Anyway - fantastic fish and a lucky man!

  4. Hi Jim welcome to the forum.

    I also only joined this year and really got back into carp fishing after quite a while and mostly fly fishing. What I did learn here however did enable me to catch my first carp on a fly and it was a real rush. More like catching big salmon than trout and certainly fun. I "euro" fish most of the time but will have the fly rod out again next year when the fish come up to the Lake Huron and Mi flats (which is just like bonefishing !).

    Good luck - you will be on the hunt for mulberry trees soon.................. :rolleyes:

  5. Nice job Richypoo.

    Saw some of them before on the Mi forum and know you've got into the game nore heavily this year. I've not ventured all the way down to your part of the state yet but maybe next year and we can get the chance to fish together.

    Don't forget the end of the summer doesn't mean the end of carp fishing! :rolleyes:

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