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Are these people total idiots? CARP JUMP!!! causing a loud splash, which is loudest to the carp itself, 'cause it's closest to that splash. So, however skittish carp may be to UNEXPECTED noise, one would have to be a complete moron to even consider a long-term deterrent based on noisy bubbles. As a matter of fact, I read one far-fetched theory which suggests that carp jump to get rid off waterborne parasites... I really hope the carp take a few years to realize that they LIKE the F'in bubbles & congregate from miles around, for jacuzzi spa treatments
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that's one hell of a CLOACA BLOCKA... tapeworm??? sashimi no riky
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I guess, not all Eagle Claws are junk
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amazing photos... any chance that it's a quillback, rather than a carp?
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P.S. the MegafishThailand guide service is run by that little bald French guy (Jean-Pierre Somethingorother). Any TV show on fish in that part of the Globe (doesn't matter what channel, or who the host is) -- THEY GO SEE HIM FOR INFO! He definitely knows what he's doing!!!
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The one with funky teeth is Pacu -- it's definitely an Amazonian cousin of piranha.
The Yantzee R. Paddlefish is the biggest, by far (23'), but the Chinese killed it off (last seen 2003), before they even found out whether it's a true freshwater or anadromous.
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Hey, you got me browsing through this stuff & I cant get enough of it. If I had the bucks, I wouldn't even think twice -- THAILAND!!!
Half of the species you're interestd in are there, including some of the coolest SA transplants, & someone has offered to set you up with a guide! If that doesn't convince you, this should:
http://www.megafishingthailand.com/compone...age/Itemid,184/
...biggest carp, biggest catfish, biggest stingray, biggest arapaima, vicious snakeheads... just keep clicking "next" at the end of each article, until you're convinced. Half the stuff on NatGeo is THERE!
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/anim...shes-index.html
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So no CAG member has traveled to to Amazon or Thailand and caught a massive exotic sportfish? I'm enjoying where the thread is going and thankful for all the information, but I'm still looking for an answer to my original question.
Somewhere on this forum is a post from a Gentleman (with ample photos) of some MIGHTY, MIGHTY impressive Spanish(?) Wels -- just search for it
Please allow an amateur in here. I was reading the replies and was interested in the idea of the cold weather in Siberia stunting growth. I recall that the largest trout are the taimen which are from the Kamchatka River, et al., in eastern Russia. I am also in awe of the number of large carp that are caught in the northern states. What is the largest carp taken in the USA and where caught? Just curious. Common carp record in Tennessee is 53 lb.cold climate stunts growth in warm-water species, but it increases the lifespan -- PA state record is somewhere in the low 50's also, but the fish was probably much older than the TN 53
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Hmmm... just hit translate, huh. I feel kinda' stupid for struggling through the original w/ my long-forgotten 3rd grade education. As horrible as the translation is, it would have been much less painful.
I found only one other reference to record size, which gives the same numbers (55/68) & states that the 55 is more dated & probably unreliable. More importantly, I haven't found anything BETWEEN low 40's & 55/68, so I'm guessing that they netted a 68 kg. SOMETHING -- anomaly/throw-back/hybrid/a carp that eats sinkers... who knows? [OTOH, how does the IGFA 123 lb. ATR compare to the flatty photo that Possum posted?]
BTW, was it the same article that gives a whip technique for large carp:
- set hook,
- throw pole in water,
- chase pole in row-boat.
I can't bring myself to go back & check. I'm done reading Tolstoy-wannabes for at least a year!!! If I want a migraine, I'll give War and Peace another try...
- set hook,
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PA only allows non-reproducing triploid grassies for weed control -- big, but rare. I never had the pleasure. How Louis managed to get one in a river, still amazes me -- pond escapee, I guess.
Sorry, the biggest Philly flatties are around 40, but they get bigger every year & I'm VERY curious to see where they top out.
Mario,
The best I can do, is this:
http://www.fishinginfo.ru/index.php?CLID=1...78357-default-1
I'm sure there are a couple CAG members that can read Russian & will tell you that I didn't make it up. If it's B/S, I ain't the source -- just a relay. Looks like a reasonably respectable site. Now that I've figured out how to get Cyrillic characters into my browser, I'll try to find confirmation from other sources.
The article is from the late 1980's & the 68kg fish mentioned, is from the early 1980's. It pretty much sneers at the Western Carp Records, states that 40kg commons (wild) "are not too much of a rarity" & claims historical references to wild commons up to 1.5m, 100 yrs. earlier. It also mentions a particularly humpy, localized wild strain that's smaller than US carp.
I still don't understand why you're so incredulous, though. Face it, Uncle Sammy imported the sturdiest, most adaptable, most easily obtained strain of carp for food -- NOT the biggest & best sport fish. IMHO a 200 lb. common would be possible, if it weren't for the Commies' horrible industrial pollution & atrocious ecological mismanagement. Siberia is just one of those places where you catch it, you cook it, you eat it -- PERIOD! If it tastes really nasty, you mulch it up in your garden.
When the Coelacanth was first "discovered", it was photographed in an African market stall.
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C'mon, Mario -- PICTURE??? We're talkin Siberia, when the Iron Curtain was still up! Those people had neither cameras, nor any clue what IGFA is & possibly, no refrigeration. I'm sure each fish was promptly butchered & fed a whole village. Besides, do you really think that some Ivan-shmo would even want to be exposed to Western Press -- that would entail a lengthy briefing AND debriefing by the KGB!
Why are you surprised, anyway? I'm sure you know that all US, UK, & W. European carp come from hardy, adaptable strains that could live in overcrowded ponds & did for centuries, before they were transplanted West. Real wild carp from Central Asia don't do well in stillwater, at all. I haven't seen one since I was 8 or 9, and you have probably NEVER seen one, my friend. If you want one, you have to get to a major river that empties into the Black or Caspian Sea. The lower Danube has 'em, but it's probably not your best bet for a 100-pounder. The carp you know & love, Russians refer to as the "smallish, domesticated, German strain" or just pond-carp. GO EAST, YOUNG MAN!
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Oh yeah, if you just want exotic -- not necessarily huge -- there are some small ponds in Philly, by the stadiums, that have Northern Snakehead. They can't poison them, because the ponds are connected to the Delaware R.
Also, the Siberian record for C. carpio (commons) is 55 hooked & 68 netted -- THAT'S KILOS, NOT PUNY POUNDS!!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hucho_taimen
biggest known Salmonid
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There sure are monster Blue and Flathead Catfish in the south that's for sure! I'm sure I'll be able to fish for them long before I make it to the Amazon or Thailand! A little bit closer to home! LOL! That was a great show on Alligator Gar. Unfortunately they got a undeserved rep for their appearence alone when American Alligators were the real attackers. Truly an amazing fish and living fossil!
You don't even have to go that far for Flattys. They invaded SE PA rivers, about 10-15 yrs. ago; have reached 40-60 lb. range already; and are reasonably easy to catch. I'm sure the Res. they escaped from holds some 80-pounders, but it's a big water & they're not as easy to target. Beides, downtown Philly is much more convenient for me.
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Another exotic option is the Goonch (catty w/ shark-like teeth from India/Nepal). They are not supposed to exceed 200 lbs., but they probably do. Here's the short version:
- locals build their funeral pyres on the banks of the Sacred Kali River, as is their custom
- times are tough & firewood is precious
- instead of being burnt to a crisp, Grandpa is merely toasted, before getting dumped in the water
- Goonch get an easy meal w/out effort, so they grow & develop a taste for human flesh
- then they proceed to suck down LIVE humans & grow even bigger
Don't need boilies... just pilfer a few BBQed limbs... the spot's pre-chummed
P.S., If you're interested in Salmonids, consider the Hucho Taimen (200+ lb. trout in Russia/Mongolia)
- locals build their funeral pyres on the banks of the Sacred Kali River, as is their custom
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Another exotic option is the Goonch (catty w/ shark-like teeth from India/Nepal). They are not supposed to exceed 200 lbs., but they probably do. Here's the short version:
- locals build their funeral pyres on the banks of the Sacred Kali River, as is their custom
- times are tough & firewood is precious
- instead of being burnt to a crisp, Grandpa is merely toasted, before getting dumped in the water
- the Goonch get an easy meal w/out effort, so they grow & develop a taste for human flesh
- then they proceed to suck down LIVE humans & grow even bigger
Don't need boilies... just pilfer a few BBQed limbs... the spot's pre-chummed
- locals build their funeral pyres on the banks of the Sacred Kali River, as is their custom
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Except for the Wels, every species that you mentioned is ENDANGERED or THREATENED. Your chances of hooking up with a specimen that even approaches 1/2 max. potential, are slim to none. You are much more likely to catch some tropical disease, that doctors back home won't know how to deal with.
Go for Thailand!!! You probably won't catch the Siamese Carp/Giant Barb of any size, but they have ponds stocked with Arapaima just for fishermen -- C&R, only. The ponds are small, so you won't get spooled. After you play tug-of-war till your arms fall off, it's straight to the Opium Den, for muscle relaxant/painkiller.
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Welcome to Philly & to the forum.
Take a close look at the the Schuylkill R. If you like big-river fishing, the lower tidal section is essentially part of the Delaware R., but you can cast to the main channel (which you certainly couldn't do in the Delaware, itsel). NNW of the city, the Skuk used to hold large numbers of small & medium carp, but the river is changing rapidly & drastically (do some research on Dam removal & Flathead Invasion - a large, predatory catfish). In upcoming years, I expect a drop in numbers, an increase in average size, & fewer areas for carp to cocentrate. A 20-50 lb. catty, is also a nice way to test your gear.
Unfortunately, the Reservoirs NE (Churchville) & SW (Springton) of the city are off limits. If anglers are ever allowed to return there, the opportunities will be phenomenal.
Roman
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That's a real beauty! How about Maximillian, or just MAX.
That's the only Mexican Queen I can think of... of Royal blood, that is.
(no more photos of common Mexican queens, please
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What is that? ...Arapaima? ...Nile Perch? What Continent?
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nice flatties
i never got a flathead maybe oneday
they're less than 1 hr. away from you:
Schuylkill R. between Reading & Philly is full of 'em & it's not a bad carp fishery
Blue Marsh Res. (whence they are believed to have escaped) is even closer & produced the State Record (spillway)
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How about constant action for various sunfish species, white perch, crappie, and dink bass (none of which I consider desireable), broken up by smallish commons, mid-size channels, and the occasional SNAKEHEAD. They've invaded FDR Park in Philly -- one big flood & they'll be out in the Delaware R. basin, just like the Potomac!
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OK, you obviously don't want to hurt the ducks, so buckshot, rock salt, BB's, & falconry are OUT!
Here's a cheap, low-tech, old-World chumming method that may help you get the ducks to disassociate your fishing spot from getting an easy meal. It's used for coarse fishing in fast, deep water, to achieve better sink-rate & timed chum release, but can be adapted to your needs:
1) Stop using maize, altogether.
2) Use something fine like steamed millet, where the grains stay separate, absorb flavors & won't float.
3) Mix your chum with clay-like mud, & form dense "baseballs". You'll have to adjust the formula to your local mud "quality". Cooked millet gets eaten by the smallest fish, so the idea is not for the ball to break apart on impact, but to sink intact & soak apart slowly, releasing flavor & small amounts of feed.
As Phone suggested, feed the ducks first, in a shallow, heavily weeded area AWAY from your swim, but don't use corn/maize! Use brown rice or barley, to make them work harder & keep them busy longer (should firm up those nasty droppings a bit, also)! When you're ready to chum the carp, several bombs from your pitching arm will give you better distance than maize from a catapult & won't set off any dinner bells for the ducks, or distract them from their grain feast.
You may still need a few rocks to reinforce the notion that large heavy projectiles are bad for ducks! Remember, millet is bird feed -- if the ducks ever figure out what's inside the "bombs", you'll NEVER get rid of them!
Good luck.
Roman
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Hi.
live in Philly
started fishing w/ a bamboo pole @ 3yo, behind the Iron Curtain, so "coarse" is n my blood w/ carp being the top species (relax, I've learned to C&R since getting Westernized, though Mom occasionally gets a 2-4 pounder from a clean Reservoir)
otherwise, I fish for anything & everything that doesn't involve boat/waves combination (I'm a "chummer" both, in a good way -- as you guys use the term, AND the derogatory SW definition)
I've yet to top 30# for "braggin' rights", but interesting species variations (including big, carp-like suckers) are even more desireable.
I'm getting WAY past the "keep it brief" suggestion, so I'll wrap up my intro.
Nice to meet you all.
Roman
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Awesome!!! Way to turn evacuation into a vacation.