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What do think of the Gander Mountian private label.
Over priced , for that money, I would buy a lower end St. Croix Premier, Mojo bass rod instead.
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Hey Gilbert , you say your rods are built on GLoomis (spelled correctly) blanks huh , well to a hard core multi-species St. Croix fan , buying a GLoomis rod would be against all that is right in the world. I say if your going to buy the best AMERICAN rod, St. Croix is the best there is. I have handled many GLoomis rods and found them to be highly over priced and did not care for the actions...they were no were as crisp as a St.Croix of the same length , action, etc.
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Lets also not forget that WACKERBAITS is the ONLY carp shop in North America to offer a LAY-A-WAY option !!!! Why all the other shops have not also offered this is beyond me , guess thats why Wackerbaits was the first shop to offer us great euro carp tackle here in the States and is always making changes to give his customers what they want.
Now I can put those Daiwa QDX Basia's in LAY-A-WAY and not have to worry about the Mrs. finding out
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Good show, Question for you. Is that the Matrix Patriot pod ? Also what baitcasting rods are those ?
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You can and several do but my concern would be gators and possible two legged vermin who occasionally visit the area. There are two realtively cheap motels within 2-3 miles.
THANK YOU for the information Capt.
I fished at night along the re-diversion canal on Santee Cooper , SC for blue cats and there were BIG gators there at night.....you just dont go washing your hands off in the water after dark and always have a fishing buddy watching the water with a nice bright light when landing fish....
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I have always wanted to fish below that dam after reading about the great FLATHEAD fishing there.....and add to that list CARP below that dam, thats AWESOME.
Capt. could you set up a shelter and stay over night below that dam ?
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http://www.ebay.co.u...=item5ae5318d69
your correct alex they are hyperloop , here is a ebay link above to my exact rods
Yea , thought you meant Hyperloop, very nice rods. I have a few pairs of 2.50TC carp rods and have caught some very big carp on them, great FEEL when fighting a fish on them in open water...a bit scary when fishing around heavy cover if you have to really lay into a big fish to steer them away from snags....but the guys who only run very fast taper 3.50TC carp rods will never know what it really is to "play" a carp and feel every kick of the tail.
Anyway, like I said, if you ever want to part with them, look me up.....as for that link from UK Ebay above....WOW $111.00 for shipping ONE rod from the UK. Thats just stupid, you would pay more for the shipping than you would for the rod. I have had up to three 13' carp rods shipped from the Shimano UK to my house and it only cost me $25.
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Hmmmm, Hyperloop BX Specimen rod maybe , never heard of Powerloop carp rod, only one for Match fishing?
Well anyway if you ever get the itch to go to a heavier set of rods like a 2.75TC or 3.00TC, give me a shout as I would love to buy them as I only have Tribal, Technium , Alivio and ForceMaster's in my collection of Shimano rods.
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I agree Robert, Big Game is tough , cheap and easy to find at your local Wal-mart. I do feel that it has horrible spool memory , but with the cheap cost I tend to beat this by changing my line out often . Also a very great invention that I use to combat issues with coily mono lines like Big Game is the Gardner spin doctors...plus when catching a lot of fish and having lots of runs you get a lot of line twists and these little babys remove them very well.
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=17790&cat=283&page=2
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If you want real abrasion resistance from a MONO, check out the Korda Subline, it tested MUCH higher than our trusty Big Game on knot strength and abrasion resistance.
I know some gents that run 20-30 yards of 100 lb. test power pro up on the St. Larry to combat zebra mussels with great success , but what is that 100 lb. braid equal to in mono dia. ??? I aint shelling out that much cash for a braided shockleader of 100 lb. test.
If I have issues with cut offs I will simply use a normal shockleader length (5 wraps on the spool, up the guides and back down to spigot on rod) of 30-40 lb. test big game. No more cut offs....but as Robert said ALWAYS check your line after each fish when fishing known rocky areas for sure. I also know that most of my cut off used to come from the last few feet before the lead system (swivel, method feeder., lead clip, etc.) and adding rig tubing greatly helped , but after also adding a shockleader they only time I loose fish is if they snag me up, the hook pulls (horsing fish away from snags) or not checking for wear along the last feet of line until I get broke off and after feeling the line the sinking feeling hits me...angler error.
Hey Guss, 2.50TC Shimano's huh......what model do you have ?
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Yea I sure can help......USE MONO !!!
I use braided lines for throwing lures for many species, Spodding and marker float work for carp , BUT I never use it as a bottom fishing line for the reasons that you are finding out. I would get break off on the hooksets constantly . Super braid is not so super when faced with sharp objects no matter what some of these guys will tell you, unless your willing to step up to 80 or 100 lb. test, which is complete over kill, but then again I could never see fishing for carp with 40 lb. test mainline , but thats just me.
I have fished Berkley Big Game , Silver Thread Excalibur , McCoy Mean Green and Gamakatsu G-power in 12 lb. test over the past 10 years for carp and have landed 1000's and 1000's of carp up into the 40 lb. range . If I need a bit more of an abrasion resistance closer to the rig I run a shockleader...which I do most of the time anyway since I mostly cast 2 oz. feeders and good sized method balls and I need a heavier line to absorb the force of the cast.
If you want to avoid loosing fish to cut off, stay away from the braid. I much prefer to play fish off the clutch and the rod and enjoy the fight..... not hook and wench fish with cable , I reserve that for Flathead fishing and then I still prefer braided Dacron main lines and I again need abrasion resistance fishing for big fish in heavy cover , which super lines cant give me.
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Well first off I was/am a BIG fan of cork handles before "euro' style carp rods, I wouldnt be caught dead with a cheap EVA handled rod for the other species I chase. Getting cork handled proper carp rods has been super tough in the States and for many years not many carp rod makers even sold a model with cork, its been EVA , Japanese shrink tube in either full length or abbreviated as the standard. So with the full cork handles I would give them a 9 out of 10.... the only way these rods could be a perfect 10 in looks is if they would have made them abbreviated cork handles (like the St. Croix Mojo and other models). But I like the full cork better than the standard euro carp handles.
Action - they are a Mod./Fast action and of course are not TEST CURVE rated like UK carp rods, I have heard others say they are like a 3.50TC , but that must be because they are rated up to 4 oz. , but I personally would say they have a softer tip than my UK 3.50TC rods and would put them in the 3 - 3.25TC range. Dont get me wrong , I love the action of these rods and would not want them like some of my fast action distance carp rods that tend to be very stiff....which you have to worry about when playing fish in close under the rod tip if you dont fish a "light" drag once you get the fish in that close because you CAN pull hooks with stiff rods. These rods threw 2 oz. method feeder packed pretty well with oats with no issues and I bet they could put them out there as far as I needed if the fish would have been showing far out. I really liked the action and the FEEL of these rods the more I cast them...you can certainly tell they put a lot of thought into these rods and you can tell they are a St. Croix rod by the feel. Certainly NOT like my St. Croix surf rods be any means..but with large 50mm butt rings they sure would be great for casting 2-3 oz. spoons for stripers below some big dams...hmmm !
Overall I really like them and even a carpin buddy of mine that I fished with yesterday commented that he didnt think he would like full cork handles on carp rods (since he's used to normal UK carp rods) but he really thought they looked awesome and said he would like a set of rods with full cork too after seeing my Avids.
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Speaking about this brand...broke out my 12' St. Croix Avid carp rods this weekend finally....
Knocked off the "new gear" curse on both of them as well with 17 carp landed.
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The Kevlite Multi Range was a stunning series of rods and the blank near indestructible.
One of the reasons I created the Saxon hexalite series was to reproduce as many of the Kevlite performance characteristics as possible in a reasonably priced rod (i.e. under $300).
Dang it Iain,
You are going to make me purchase a set of Saxons next to add to the collection are'nt you !! I would have SO much more money if it was'nt for this dang internet.....come on !!! ....lmao
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Well Robert, sir you are certainly NOT alone. There are more of us with the same affliction than you think, some are just too busy out buying /collecting tackle to post about their problems too.
The best t-shirt I ever saw said..."carp fishing ruined my life".....this might be true and I know I would certainly have a LOT more money in the bank if it was'nt for carp fishing.....but man I dont know if I could give it up !
You know its bad when the USPS , UPS and FedEx delivery guys know you by name and talk to you like they've know you all their life...LMAO !!
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Yes we are and yes we do !!!!....maybe we should leave this gents thread alone and let him get on with finding the right quality rod for his application....with not much help from us I must say.
Sorry for the high jack guys...carry on, dont mind us.
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I knew there were reasons I always liked you and followed your posts....."BUT for those that have had the privilege of using quality carp tackle, that experience is accentuated tenfold if you use quality tackle"...."quality tackle is not just for tartiness but it really does make a difference in the experience"...."Then there's the practical/necessary aspects like different rods for different situations where you have to have the right tool for the job"...Amen brother, preach it !!!
I have used all sorts of tackle over the years , like everyone else started out with cheaper tackle that was readily available , but the deeper and in-depth I truly got into fishing and pursuing bigger specimens of each species.....My need for better quality tackle that was up to the task grew.....into what I have acquired today. I will not use cheap poor quality tackle when chasing big fish of any species .I would also like to 2nd your statement about the right tool for the job. I (personally)would never chase big river carp around snags with 2 - 2.25TC carp rods and try to throw 2 oz. method feeders to the moon. Same as I would not fish for small carp in a 2 acre pond with my 13' 3.50TC Tribals...there are rods made for each job and I own 1.75TC rods all the way to 3.50TC and ALL TC's in between. They all have their applications and they all have their limits and over/under kills. Know what your chasing and bring the right tools to do the job well.
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Robert....." North Western Kevlite Multi Range " you sir have a rare pair of carp rods that are VERY well known to those of us in the carp tackle circle. I have only heard of a few pair in the USA and was lucky enough to cast one of them many years ago, I compare it to my Shimano Tribal AR's & LC's as they are a pleasure to fish with and the FEEL of them when casting and playing fish is top notch...a true "players" rod for those who love a softer rod with plenty of power the farther you bend into them. I know I can push my 2.75TC AR's to over 100 yards with ease if needed.
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If you want a good casting technique DVD, check out this one...
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Nice! That's what I'm talkin' about
B)......5 rod pods, 11 alarms , 3 bedchairs, 3 carp chairs , barrow , baitboat , 4 shelters....and on and on....yea I have it BAD bro !!!!!!
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Glad someone else agrees with that as my women thinks I am completely crazy , I not crazy, just a slight tackle addiction..lol.
Yes that picture was when I completed my peg board reel organizer (ran out of shelf space) was of my 36 carp reels.....I also have 34 carp rods..which are all in rod holders mounted to the basement ceiling.
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And thats just CARP reels, thats not showing all my smallmouthbass to flathead catfish reels (and rods)..
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Late to the party.....
I am also a big St. Croix fan and own over 24 of their rods...from 5'6" Ultra lights to 12' surf (and 12' Avid Carp). Everything from Premiers to Legend Elites , by far one of the very best brands of rods I have ever had the pleasure to fish with.
Main reason I bought a pair of 12' Avid carp rods is because of my love for the brand, sadly I have not had my time fishing them as I have too many carp rods and its hard getting much bank time with them all.
If you are looking for a rod in the 9-9'6" range, then I would highly recommend looking at the Wild River (love them) or Avid Salmon/steelhead......or if you want the 9'6" Avid carp rod ?
I use 8'6" - 9'6" St. Croix's for many different species like Whitebass , Hybrid stripers to channel cats and carp...you cant go wrong with that size rod.
As far as the Shimano baitrunners, the D series if OK , I dont like them as much as the older B series or the Thunnus , but with a 9-9'6" rod you cant go wrong with a 4000 size baitrunner as its about a perfect match for that size rod , I use Shimano 3500 B's on 9' Chub Outcast Stalkers and on 9' Shimano Tribal Stalkers for my Winter carp fishing and they are great to play fish on.
Good luck and hope you find the St. Croix to fit your needs.
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So is this the 3rd owner of this company now ? Wayne the original owner , then John B. and now Mihai & Bogdan ?
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Yea a few of the guys I fish with use those...they are new out and work very well.....my energizers are still going strong, when they finally fail I will check out those Coleman's for sure .
Wanting To Get A New Carp Rod Need Some Opinons On St.croix
in Beginning Carping
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"The company that make the G-Lumas Bass rods mades my blank"...so then GLoomis DOES make your blanks...or are you saying the GLoomis out sources their bass rod blanks from another blank maker ? Confused ?
Your spelling of G-Lumas makes me think maybe we are talking about two different brands as I have only heard of G.Loomis , not the one you typed.