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I think its actually "Jenna Jameson" that your thinking of...but it would be fun and interesting to have her into in carp fishing and be on the forum
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Good show, night fishing when the weather is hot is a must to continue catching in the Summer. Wont be long and you'll be looking at the picture of your 20 lber. the way you look at your first ever carp....bigger fish to be caught.
Good luck !
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I'm a believer in the Fox captive backlead system personally. I dont like the sliding backleads on the line, feels like playing fish on a zig-rig.
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Also if you have problems with swivels pulling out of the lead clip turing it into a running rig and you dont want that, these are the best clips you can buy and these are probably my #1 choise in safety clips and I use them most of the time (unless I want the running rig effect). Biggest problem with swivels pulling out of the clips is when you try to use cheap brand swivels with brands like Korda, Fox, ACE, etc. it just wont work as well as buying the real swivels made to be used with them.
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This is what i'm talking about....
These are the only style of safety clips I use and I dont loose any leads unless I snag up or what to loose the lead .
Good luck,
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The clips I have slide all the way on and off very easily. Could anyone recommend a brand that stays on more secure?
These are the ones I was using.
The picture you show of your lead clip shows a SMOOTH body of the clip where the tail rubber goes on, this is why you loose the lead so easily. I agree with Savvy that I only use safety clip rigs when fishing haevy weed where I want to dump the lead on the take or as soon as it comes in contact with weed so the fish rises to the surface instead od diving deep into the weed and snagging up.
The clips I use have RIBS along that area where the tail rubber slides on, push it on only one or two ribs, the lead drops off on the take, push it all the way on and it will only drop the lead if it gets snagged.
One big issue that guys have with safety clips is they use the same tail rubbers time after time until they fall apart, if your loosing your lead very easily, change the tail rubber, this is the only part that needs replacing after repeated use so make sure to buy extra tail rubbers. You should be able to push the tail rubber on all the way and not drop the lead, if you test it and it falls off too easily, change the tail and retest. Also those smooth safety clips you show will do nothing to hold that tail rubber on when using heavy leads. I use only Korda and Fox safety clips, I wont use those junky cheap ones from Resistance, Scorpion , etc.
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alex - I can only assume you have never owned either of those reels. If you did then you would know it is black plastic, rugged and very heavy. it has a completely different bail arm release mechanism thingy for casting (it moves the bailarm to the top for easy casting). the spool drag setting takes ages to wind up tight and when you try and pull line from it it goes from locked to loose pretty quickly. daiwa designed the reel specifically for spodding and spent no time on the drag.
I owned one and tried to use it for fishing. Take it from me, the drag isn't up for playing fish on - certainly compared to an emblem pro. I have heard of people using them for fishing but I know plenty of others that wouldn't dream of using one. I sold mine when I moved to Canada and bought a set of Emblem Plus's as I knew they could be relied upon for fishing or spodding
Hmmmm.....EMBLEM SPOD REEL...
Yep certainly looks like the EMBLEM PRO reel to me...as I said, only difference is gear ratio.
I own sets of both Emblem Z's and Emblem S's and yes they are PLASTIC like most carp reels and yes they are not the smoothest reels I have ever handled and yes they take forever to turn the drag from free to tight, but so is the Emblem Spod reel we are talking about.
There OK reels, but the spod reel can certainly be used for regular carp fishing, which was the original question.
I prefer to use a reel made for spodding because as some of you have found out the plastic line clips will break off and most normal carp reels only give you one line clip. I now use spod reel with metal line clips and have no isuues....would I use one for carp fishing, sure, in a pinch any reel will work.
If it was me and I was trying to save space like when I do long walk in trips, I would take two baitrunner reels , use a shockleader as always and use one for spodding , then change it over to a rig and cast it out.
If taking 3 rods is an issue, then I only take two and take my catapult since I always use method and just chum with method balls and be done with it.
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Ken,its actually an extremely smooth reel. The reason I bought mine was the retrieve is huge. One turn is like 4 feet so if you spod a ton this saves some time and effort.
You are 100% correct, the DAIWA spod reel is simply and Emblem Pro with a gear ratio change so it retrieves far better than a standard fishing reel. It still has the super smooth drag, nice smooth feel when reeling...its a gear change is all.
NOW if you were talking a cheap spod reel like both shimano and daiwa puts out there, then maybe yes you could certainly say they are not as smooth as a normal fishing reel, but that is also true for quality of any reel..the cheaper it is the less ball bearings it will have , the looser the parts will fit and the drag will be no where near what a better quality reel will have . But hey lots of guys on here use what I would consider a spod reel for carp fishing....Daiwa Emcast sport , Emblem X....Shimano Aerlex , etc. I consider a CARP fishing reel to have a baitrunner type system built in weather that be a quick drag, instant drag, baitrunner II or regular baitrunner. A normal drag reel can be used for carp fishing for sure, but so can a push button....but still doesnt make it right or the best option for the job...but will work.
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Are you talking spod REEL or spod ROD..as the title of your thread says spod rod, but you say spod reel in your post.
The Daiwa spod rods are not that heavy, maybe 4-4.5TC so it would work , just stiffer than your normal carp rod. If its the spod reel, yes you can but it has a much faster retrieve than a normal carp reel.
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Yes agreed, if there is something that you see on a UK tackle web site that some shop in North America does not stock, contact them and see if they can get it for you.
I have special ordered a lot of Shimano stuff through Carp Kit that he does not carry on his web site and Simon is a GREAT guy to deal with. I do also know that Wackerbaits and BCT can special order items too.
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I have not fished that model Fox rod , but I will say I really do like FOX rods and still have a few sets and still love to break them out from time to time. I dont think you can go wrong with FOX when it comes to their rods , luggage and shelters...I used to be a very big FOX fan myself and own a ton of their gear.
I personally would choose that Fox rod over any Chub model out there !!
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I think BCT is listing them ahead of time...they should have those items in stock shortly so keep an eye on the web site or contact BCT and ask when they will arrive.
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here ya go......for the "budget carpers" BCT has ya covered...
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/manufacturers.php?manufacturerid=103
12' carp rod and baitrunner reel combo for $35
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=19841&cat=0&page=1&featured
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A fair point on carp care. Yes. An unhooking matt, and larger more fish friendly net, is certainly in my future !
At present, to limit the harm to the fish, I am unhooking them in the water - not great, but certainly better than them flopping around on the bank & rocks!
You could also add to the upgrade list, a weigh sling - which could be used to return the fish afterwards safely and gently to the water.
To round out the care care topic, you could also add the fish care kit, which includes iodine and/or some antibiotic ointments to treat the hook marks and any scale damage caused during bringing the fish in. Korda I *think* has some of those products available.
John
John , I agree 100% , i'm certainly not going against your comments on "carping on a budget". I too started out with rods made for other species, PVC pod , no alarms and very simple grocery store baits...and did catch very well.
I was merely replying to others comments about what I typed....carry on and good carping to you.
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Alex an additional $50 plus shipping may not be in the budget for some cant you just congratulate him on a great day
Did not know the point to his post was that he caught fish, I thought that it was all about doing it on a budget...which I said "never seen it said you have to buy any proper EURO gear to catch carp , heck you can catch them on a cane pole if you so wish" , So I agreed you dont need to spend lots of money to catch carp. Sorry if I missed the point of the thread, but when I see some one spend $135 for carp gear and be proud of it , but they didnt think to help protect the fish in which they are out fishing for, I have to point it out is all.
So with that said, I will say...
John ,
congrats on your nice catches on a budget.
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Yep , never seen it said you have to buy any proper EURO gear to catch carp , heck you can catch them on a cane pole if you so wish......but I wouldn't give up my high end gear for nothing !!!
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But I would suggest for those going "bare and basic" to add $10 to your list of tackle cost....
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=19110&cat=264&page=1
And take care of those carp , you might go cheap , but dont sacrifice the fishes care doing so .
I would also so suggest another $42 for a soft fish friendly net...(27" head size)
http://www.psfishing.com/alegra-2-section-fish-landing-nets.html
Not those horrible knotted string nets sold at every wal-mart, meijer, k-mart and mom & pop bait store.
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When it gets HOT....night time is the right time !!! Fish in waters that see a lot of pleasure boaters and all that during the day move out far , but at night move in to feed once the water calms down.
In Summer I tend to fish more early morning , late evening and through the night to bat the heat, so do the fish. Holds true for many species other than carp too.
I also agree that rivers are the place to be, my favorite type of water to fish.
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Well, good luck finding the Outcasts anymore , they have the Outcast PLUS for a MUCH higher price than the original Outcast($200)...but even the PLUS is not easy to find in stock. These were the only ones I found listed in the USA.
http://www.bigcarptackle.com/store/product.php?productid=19404&cat=363&page=1
Here is the Chub S-plus in 12' 3.50TC for a good price-
http://www.carpkit.com/products/Chub-S%252dPlus-Carp-Rod-13%27-3.50lb-.html
Oh and I think my buddy's Grey's replacement came all the way from the UK is why it cost him like $50 or something , as they did not have any in stock in the USA shop.....heck do they even have a USA shop anymore ?
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Then if your wanting long warranty, go with Chub or Greys...even though I have seen a Greys Prodigy SX 12' 3.5tc break in half during a soft cast , still cant figure it out what happend, best we can guess is that it had a hairline fracture and decided to let loose at that moment? But he did get a new section under the warranty...but he did pay some $ for it (shipping & handling maybe ?).
I do know a few carpers in my area chucking large method balls with Chub Outcasts and they love them , I personally own a pair of Chub Outcast 9' stalkers that I use for Winter fishing and they have done very well, but I just received a pair of Shimano Tribal 9' stalkers that put these Chubs to shame and they will be my new Winter rods
Good luck on your rod hunt !!
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If someone gave me a set of Sonik rods for FREE....I would give them away,donate them or maybe even pay someone to take them !
$255 for a Sonik, are you crazy ? I wouldn't pay $55 !! Dude, go with a Saxon if your going to spend $200 per rod.
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Karper,
The Windcast is a good reel , there are some carpers in my area that love their's and have caught 30's on them and have no complaints and they put 100's of carp on the bank every season , nothing broken, worn out or nothing.
Those of us that use Shimano's have a hard time changing over to Daiwa reels because they are typically lighter and dont have that "built like a tank" feel , but most higher end Daiwa's are tough as nails.
The Daiwa black sealine is an ok reel , its the American version of the lower end Linear S UK reel . They are strong reels , but prefer the double paddle handle of the UK version . I have a pair of the Linear X 5500's and truthfully can say I love them, which is hard for me to say about a Daiwa reel , because most I have used or own dont compare to a Shimano....IMO of course.
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I can also take more pictures for you of the mat folded up, opened and all that if you want, just let me know.
That female Common in the picture above is a 27 lber , so it will hold carp to 30-35 lbs. no problem for sure.
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Honestly I dont remember, but it was not expensive compared to many other "cradle" style mats on the market.
Contact Simon here
and ask him for a price on this - Model # SHTRL27N TRIBAL LITE BARBEL & STALKING MAT
You can see it on the UK Shimano web site here -
Also incase you didnt see , it comes in the sweet Realtree Hardwoods Green pattern that I love !!
Good luck and hope you find a mat to fill your needs.
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The cradle style mats are the way to go for sure. I have and still do use my standard flat style mats, but those are mostly for long walk in spots because they roll up and can be secured to the top of my rucksack.
I do now own the Avid carp couch , which is a BEAST and is only for fishing close to the truck where I dont have to carry gear far and plan on staying long hours. I have also recently purchased the Shimano Tribal stalking mat and it has sides on it and folds up pretty compact and I really like it for keeping fish from flopping off while trying to secure my gear , get the camera ready , etc.
I bought it through Simon at Carp Kit , he does not carry them on his web site , but he can get ANYTHING you want and is a pleasure to order from.
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Good find, there are lots of "other species" gear that can be used as carpin gear , the possibillitys are endless.
I kind of like the carpy brown over the carpy green, guess over the years I have just been burnt out on all the dark green luggage..just glad its not bright blue....the carp certainly would not go for that..lol...and would see you coming a mile away.
Speaking of headlamps at Wal-Mart, I use the Energizer ones sold there and have for many years now...LOVE them, would not be without them for night sessions ever again.