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  1. I have only fished Tommy Thompson Park this year a few times due to a leg injury. Each time I have been out I was unable to fish my preferred spot or conditions were very poor. I was able to get out Aug 04 and although my preferred spot was being fished ...the conditions were decent. I tried a pond where I had not been successful in a couple previous attempts and was rewarded with a couple carp in a short period of time in late morning. August is not the preferred time for catching the 30 plus sizes we were catching last spring but the area does offer mid 20's year round. The 30 plus size is a spring early summer phenomenon. Catching mid 20's a bicycle ride from downtown Toronto on weekends is definitely a saving grace for a city that is under constant construction and its highways exiting the city are at a standstill with traffic. Tommy Thompson Park is one of many places that carp can be caught around Toronto.The abundance of carp and the isolated conditions of the park make it a better choice than many of the other spots around Toronto. Example if there has been a heavy rain then the conditions at Humber River, Don River, Rouge River and the other tribs make fishing in the rivers, river mouths and surrounding bays difficult and at times unsafe. The Toronto Harbour carp fishing also declines for days after a heavy rain. Ashbridges Bay becomes impossible to fish for a week after a rain due to the sewage treatment plant located in the bay and the storm water discharges.

    The Toronto Islands and Tommy Thompson park become the options of choice and the fishing conditions actually improve after a major summer rain storm.

    TRCA has announced that fishing access points will be improved at Tommy Thompson Park and the Toronto Islands by end of next year. Funding and planning were secured late last year and into this year.

    Notes on carp fishing this year around Toronto. The pods are fewer and smaller in member numbers.

    The carp are healthier and in better condition. The runs and fights this year are better...the carp appear to have more energy. The carp are being pressured more with the number of carp anglers in this area having increased ten fold. The carp are more cautious at eating and appear to be well fed and not as desperate for our offerings. Because the pods are smaller we will find 2-4 carp eating at one time rather than 5-10 at one time. The number of pods that are visiting swims is significantly down as well...to about a third of last year. We are not seeing bays with hundreds of carp spread across them as we did in the past. Carp Gates have been installed at Humber River Marsh (last year), Mimico Creek (few years ago) and at Tommy Thompson Park Cell1 a few years back. As well embayment 1 at Tommy Thompson was physically closed off (2 years ago) to all fish for a bird sanctuary. We used to se hundreds of carp using embayment 1 to bask in the sun during the spring and summer months.

    So carp fishing in Toronto has changed with the year's weather conditions, food sources and man's interference. The numbers are down but many of the fights have been remarkable. Year to year one must expect changes and adapt. We are optimistic that carp fishing will improve over the next couple of years as the carp adapt to the man made changes. The fishing access points that will be built across the city will definitely improve the fishing experience. The mouth of our Don River is going to be naturalized and there will be two mouths. The airport run way at Billy Bishop Airport may be expanded into our harbour and my change fishing there. Ontario Place which has had limited public access will reopen as a park and with a trail in 2017. Changes abound.

  2. We did just that. In spring of 2014 TUFA organized a shoreline cleanup of 1.5 kilometers of shoreline in this park. We received a great turnout and the shoreline cleanup was a huge success. Getting permission from the TRCA the conservation group that owns and operates the park was difficult because they were worried about the damage to habitat and disruption to nesting birds...all concerns were dealt with successfully. We can only fish the site on weekends as it is considered a construction site on weekdays. Many anglers sneak in on weekdays giving the rest of us a bad name with the authorities. I love fishing there but injured leg early this year and it is too much for me to hike out there on a regular basis this year....maybe next year.

  3. Fri. March 07 I got out for a few hours. Finding open water in Toronto was very difficult but I ended up at my last resort swim...she is a tried and true swim...but she's difficult and always frustrating too. I caught two small carp and felt like the burden of winter was lifted from my shoulders. I encourage you all to prep your gear and start scouting your swims....the carp are active...access is the problem. With the warm temperatures this week and longer daylight hours may you have the same success and wonderful experience I had. I had a great walk and took in some incredible scenery too...spring is beautiful get yourself outside.

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  4. spirit and passion for fishing drives you two out in the cold in search for the few remaining catchable carp. with the shortened day hours there is no after work fishing...falling into ice cold water in the dark is an unacceptable risk with the type of accessibility to most Toronto swims that produce fish in the winter months. the "weekend weather" is a heart breaker as of late....your posts and success keep us motivated to find that opportunity to venture out.. cold or not but in safety. frozen fingers are seldom noticed if one is catching fish! keep fishing and posting ... living through you guys is all we got midweek!

  5. sorry I got no carp to report....working on environmental law...Nov 25 the amendments to our Canadian Federal Fisheries Act come into play reducing protection on our fisheries. I have a plan to protect our fisheries and will be meeting with real environmental lawyers later this week. must protect my best friends at all costs.

  6. great to see you made the effort and got rewarded. my five favourite swims would have been a windy mess today...it was difficult Sat. so i stayed home. looking at your pics and knowing you paid the price to catch them i am kicking myself for not getting out...lesson learned...unless its minus 10 or worse get out there. you had lots of action for such a windy and stormy day!

  7. I really like your extend-a-net handle. Congrats on the mirror carp. The number of smaller fighters can wear out your arm just as much as a couple of heavy weights. Smaller carp maneuver and twist far more at the netting than the larger carp thus always the potential that they get away...sneaky! I wish I was fishing today too...your success on such a warm late fall day is inspiring and enjoying to see.

  8. I went to the Mississauga Meeting. Anti fishing protestor told the biologists from MNR, TRCA, CVC, OFAH that catch and release practices kill fish and that the mortality rate is almost 100 percent and that the biologists were lying to the public. At that point I knew to be quiet and not to mention carp being caught numerous times or we would have our PETA friends all over this forum.

    Topics that really caught me off guard that were brought up during question period were the lack of shoreline access on the Credit River South and numerous locations across Mississauga. As well shoreline access was prohibited throughout most of Oakville.

    Credit River and many excellent piers in Mississauga were prohibited to fishing because of boat route access, boat ramps and possible interference by anglers. The shoreline angler in these two cities are prohibited from some of the finest fishing access points in those areas.

    Asian carp were again mentioned. Nov 05 Asian carp DNA was found in Lake Michigan. The breeding Asian carp in the Sandusky River that connects into Lake Erie and the discovery that Asian carp had established the beginnings of a population in Lake Erie.

    Hamilton Harbour has the largest carp population of all city harbours tested from Hamilton to Oshawa. Toronto's carp population came second. Carp travel a lot over a two week period. Tracking devices on Toronto carp showed that they moved around more than most of the other shoreline fish.

  9. I do not fly fish as presentation is always my personal weakness in the scheme of fishing. That said, I still enjoyed this video because of the philosophies of fishing presented. I also felt it was a video that you could offer to the friend(s) you may have that only fly fish. The friends that have questioned your addiction to the carp species and that you have become frustrated in trying to convince to give carp a try. This video presents carp as a sport fish to fly anglers...and with the momentum now gathered with fly anglers trying to fish for the carp species its a good time to push your friends closer to fishing for carp. I bet if we get enough fly anglers fishing for carp there will be a revolution in fishing. A call for the end of bow hunting carp in North American watersheds. Many Fly Anglers are well educated, outspoken, monetarily wealthy, and politically connected. They have formed powerful conservation groups across North America that could be utilized to make this revolution happen. Many traditional carp anglers might shy away from a partnership with fly fishing organizations that they may view as elitist in nature. I ask of everyone to look forward to the ultimate goal of ending the bow hunting of carp, and the constant unnecessary destruction of carp in our watersheds because they have been vilified and not found worthy of sport by anglers with conservational values. We might not convince every province or state in North America to change their laws but we can try to make the change one province or state at a time until momentum carries forth. We need to begin this movement locally in Canada, one province at a time. Is this the organization that can lead this movement and band together all angler groups to form one voice in opposition to bow hunting for carp? Is this an achievable goal in 5 to 10 years? Will North American anglers give carp its respectful place in the sport fishing world?

    http://venturingangler.com/2013/10/23/video-fly-fishing-for-colorado-carp-from-the-fly-collective/

  10. Reminder to carp anglers who fish Toronto waters.....this one of a kind meeting has some presentations that pertain to carp anglers.

    TRCA researchers tagged 20 plus carp and followed their travels with telemetry tracked on 50 telemetry receiving buoys around the GTA shorelines. Some of the data will be posted on large scale maps of their travels. They also time period tracked them to understand how much they moved around over a 10 day period. Where do the Toronto carp spend their winters???? Come find out. The experts will be on hand to answer your questions after the presentation too. For those wonderful carp anglers in Burlington, Hamilton, St Catherines and Niagara....your chance to come and see what the MNR and its partners can do and possibly do in the future for your area of the shoreline of Lake Ontario.

    I find carp anglers more involved and engaged in their sport and community than other anglers. Carp anglers are more apt to share techniques and be helpful to other anglers. Thus I felt this extra pitch for your interest in the public meetings well worth my time. The Mississauga meeting November 05 would be the closest venue to you guys. Maybe get someone to volunteer to check it out for your area. The goal is to improve our waters, fishing, access and to market fishing better to the public. We all share Lake Ontario shorelines and we all travel once in a while to check the venues further from us... thus these meetings do effect us all.

  11. Public Meetings

    Urban Recreational Fisheries Plan

    Toronto and the GTA

    Presented by Toronto and Region Conservation Authority in partnership with the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources

    Toronto Public Meeting and Official Presentation:

    Tuesday October 29, 2013

    Metro Hall, Room 308 and 309

    55 John Street, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3C6

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM

    Five important public meetings are slated for this October and November around an exciting new initiative to create an Urban Recreational Fisheries Plan for Greater Toronto and Area. The planning process is being lead by the Ministry of Natural Resources and four Conservation Authorities – Toronto and Region, Credit Valley, Central Lake Ontario, and Ganaraska Region – and effectively covers the north shore of Lake Ontario from the western border of the City of Mississauga extending to the eastern border of Durham Region. Other partners in the process are the municipalities, federal and provincial agencies and the Ontario Federation of Anglers and Hunters.

    The plan will integrate information on the state of the fisheries and their habitat with existing plans and strategies to create a document to guide the partners and other interested parties in improving urban recreational fishing opportunities. The plan will look at improving access to shoreline fishing, taking a systematic approach to improving fish habitat, and promote the diverse fishing opportunities available along the waterfront.

    The fall meetings will present a draft of the plan to the public. Public feedback will be incorporated into the plan, which is scheduled to be completed spring of 2014.

    Thursday October 17, 2013

    Central Lake Ontario Conservation Authority Office

    100 Whiting Avenue, Oshawa, Ontario L1H 3T3

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Tuesday October 22, 2013

    Ajax Town Hall, Council Chambers

    65 Harwood Avenue South, Ajax, Ontario L1S 2H9

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Thursday October 24, 2013

    Pickering City Hall, Council Chambers

    One the Esplanade South, Pickering, Ontario L1V 6K7

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Tuesday October 29, 2013

    Metro Hall, Room 308 and 309

    55 John Street, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3C6

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Tuesday November 5, 2013

    Clarke Memorial Hall

    161 Lakeshore Road West, Mississauga, Ontario L5H 1G3

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM

  12. Toronto Recreational Fisheries Plan

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    Toronto and Region Conservation Authority in partnership with the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resources, have undertaken the task of developing a Recreational Fisheries Plan.

    Public Meeting and Official Presentation:

    Tuesday October 29, 2013

    Metro Hall, Room 308 and 309

    55 John Street, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3C6

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    We encourage everyone to attend the meeting to learn more about the plan and provide input

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    If you can not make the October 29 date there are four other opportunities but in different cities.

    In October and early November there will be five identical public meeting in the Greater Toronto Area regarding the Urban Recreational Fisheries Plan. We encourage everyone to attend a meeting to learn more about the plan and provide input. The meetings will be held at the following locations:

    Thursday October 17, 2013

    Central Lake Ontario Conservation Authority Office

    100 Whiting Avenue, Oshawa, Ontario L1H 3T3

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Thursday October 24, 2013

    Pickering City Hall, Council Chambers

    One the Esplanade South, Pickering, Ontario L1V 6K7

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Tuesday October 29, 2013

    Metro Hall, Room 308 and 309

    55 John Street, Toronto, Ontario M5V 3C6

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Tuesday November 5, 2013

    Clarke Memorial Hall

    161 Lakeshore Road West, Mississauga, Ontario L5H 1G3

    Doors open at 6:30 PM, presentation starts at 7:00 PM meeting to conclude at 9:00 PM.

    Ajax TBA

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    Do you want to know what fish are in your area, where they are?

    New fishing access points for shore fishing are being decided...want to give your input?

    MNR fish stocking...what , where, and how many....do you want to give your input?

    Family fishing days...your input?

    Enforcement issues... have your say.

    Anything to do with recreational fishing is on the table to talk about after the presentation.

    This is your time to interact with those who will develop the future of fishing in the GTA.

    For the members on this forum it should be mentioned that carp are covered in the presentations and that they have been electronically tracking their daily travelling habits. Toronto's carp fishery is a strength for its future recreational fishing opportunities...best of all...with a little people management...its sustainable.

  13. Great write ups and pics!

    I was at Pier 4 Sunday having fish and chips with family.

    I looked for a familiar face among the 15 anglers I saw.

    Wonderful access you have there.

    I met my family in Ancaster and had I known we were gonna go for fish and chips in Hamilton I would have proposed a fishing trip too.

    The bay at pier four is wonderful!

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