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Could the fish have been foul hooked?
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I don't care who you are or what hook you use,the occasional hook pull is inevitable.That being said,
some hooks are more prone to dropping fish than others.There is a few more factors to consider as well,
such as hook size/hair length to fish size,fixed or running lead,a lot of the lighter wired hooks tend to have
a flex about them,the heavier gage hooks don't want to pierce and hold as well,etc,etc.As others have said,
use whatever you have confidence in and you'll do fine!
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Payara,
There is already one body of water that I know of with a size/number limit; Lady Bird Lake in Austin, Texas. Limit is retaining just ine common carp per day longer than than 30-simething inches. It has already shown itself to be ineffective against bow fishing though...
. But it is a start.I was aware of this rule.However, I thought it was lifted or completely disregarded?I remember all the
BS that went down between the 'sports' when they imposed it.....Doesn't matter,Believe they managed
to kill the biggest known carp in the lake anyway?
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I don't think you'll ever see a size limit applied to the common carp....A numbers limit is about the
best you're gonna get and some states already have a number set...
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While I think it is odd as well that an expensive set of alarms shows up in FL,it's probably legit.
I have seen a number of carpy things,from rods to pods turn up for sale on surf fishing forums and
ebay from places like FL and even Puerto Rico.Heck,10yrs ago anything carpy in or out of Mexico
would have been suspect with me,but look at that scene now.(though we knew there were carp in
Mexico,no one knew to what extent before Mario came along,lol.)
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Stick to the bread.Continue to toss the bread out on top,may take awhile (days) before
they'll take it but they will in time.These fish can be difficult to entice with regular carp baits
on 'new' waters. Ditch the tomatoes,they've caught the odd grasser but nowhere near as
effective as white bread for these fish.Once they are on the bread,it's possible to catch
every grasser in the pond in a relatively short amount of time.Also,grass carp tend to
respond well to baits with a heavy molasses content.
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Raystown lake in PA has a similar deal with feeding fish in the marina
Its crazy how all you need to do is start putting some bait in the water or just splash and carp start coming in big schools (5am nobody around)
At one point we went back for a look in the middle of the day when there were a lot of people throwing food and it was wild, 20’x20,’ 4 foot deep all carp, big ones will come from the bottom and push little ones on the surface out of the water
Saw few 30+ mirrors and one spawned out common which was almost a foot longer then anything else upper 40 or 50 before the spawn for sure
We fished outside the marina 200-300 yard away and usually couldn’t keep 2 rods in the water but none of the fish went over 15lb all skinny males ( it was for 4th july weekend)
Pymatunning on the OH/PA boarder is the same as you describe.
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I was always under the impression that Mead is full of smaller,stunted carp? Not really been known
for it's big fish but it has been suggested that there are some lurking in the depths.Lake Powell,not
too far away,is known to house some proper ones.
Speaking of Lake Mead.Do they still hold that big match fishing event over there?I don't keep up on it,
but remember about 10-12yrs ago there being a big event held there?
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Speaks volumes about the adaptability and hardiness of the carp...Not many temperate species that
could endure the constantly high temperatures and level of abuse...Good read...Would like to see more
from down in those parts.South America is one of the last frontiers in carp fishing,more than likely some
real giants to be discovered in the southern regions of the continent.
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The pigment of goldfish can do some crazy things.Some fish won't develop their ornamental coloring for a
considerable time.They can also start out one color and end up another.
It also seems that the carp/goldfish hybrids come in a number of shapes and colors.I haven't encountered
to many of these long,slender hybrids with the only apparent differentiating feature from that of a common carp
is the lack of barbels.I'm more familiar with the hybrids that are more 'crucian' in shape and coloring.
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Just buy the isotopes or a quality set of illuminated indicators and be done with it.You can get them relatively
cheap if you shop around...Only other option I found to satisfy was doing as Baitbucket mentioned and using
the mini glow sticks.The trouble is finding a set of indicators that will fit them or finding a way to fit it to
the indicator.If you can find a way to fit them in or to an acrylic indicator head,they glow like nobodies
buisness!You can buy them in bulk online (fairly cheap) in a number of colors and they'll give you about
48hrs worth of glow if they're good.Be about the illumination power of a decent isotope on the second night.
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Lead was a major issue with the sale of a local private water a few years back.The state (who eventually
bought it) declined to purchase it until the lake had been dredged to remove the lead shot from several
decades of trap shooting/duck hunting.The accumulation of lead in the lake didn't appear to have an impact
whatsoever on the fish.Was and still is a very decent fishery.Personally,I don't really see a problem with
dropping leads.I've done it on occasion.I can't see a lead here or there causing much damage to an
ecosystem.It has a time and a place.Far worse makes its way into our water/s.Gasoline,oil,
road salt,mercury,fluoride,the list goes on...
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Nice fishes,Ak!...Lemon fins are one of my favorite barbs...Any leptobarbus or
hampala where you're fishing?
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Thats what I've been looking at Payara. Its just really hard to justify at the moment, at least to the signifigant other. Think if I put it in the corner and threw some coats and hats on it I could pass it off as a cheap coat rack?
I will buy one at some point.Its the only way to go in the long run if you ask me.You can even make
sausages with some of them,if they have the proper attachments!
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You can get big,used Hobart mixers (20-30 qt) on craigslist for as little as $800 (less even) if you look
around.They might have a few years on them but from what I'm told,if the motor is good they'll run for ages.
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What a flawless looking grasser!Enjoyed the the story sir!
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Nice ones,Keith.Good to see you back around the boards.
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King-There was a good number of sickly looking fish in that spillway the last time I was there.
Fish covered in white film/fungus,a number of fish were missing loads of scales,had open wounds
on their bodies and a lot of them looked very underweight.Just my observations.The way those fish
thrash around in that spillway,stacked on top of each other,day in day out,surely there is going
to be damaged fish.Also,with the way those fish are staked in there,disease and parasites can
spread rapidly.Again,just my observations.
I'm not for the closing of the spillway or places similar to it.Actually,its places like this
that started my interest in carp when I was a young kid.It was fascinating when I was a kid but
looking at it now,I just find it a bit repulsive to see these wild fish behaving like fiends for
stale bread,fish pellets and various table scraps.
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The spillway at Pymatuning really is a sickening sight,quite a lot of the fish are very sickly
looking.Actually,the entire lake is infested with carp!Though,it doesn't seem to cause other species
problems,it has a great population of muskie,walleye,bass and other 'game' fish.They used to breed
carp in the hatchery at Pyma,some giants reside above the spillway but unfortunately you cant fish
that.This is the only water I've seen where it doesn't matter what you are fishing with or fishing
for,you're catching carp regardless.
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Crazy!.....Stalked?...I mean,surely you haven't had enough time to get those fish on
the boilies
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A shame.I remember reading a few of his articles online and in the NACA.Very knowledgeable.
One of the very few carp related articles for the local paper featured a large picture of
him at the '02 cup.He was also unique in his preference for bait casters.
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How difficult is it to land those fish at Hains with the railing and from the way it looks,a pretty good drop to the water?Doable with standard
nets?
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Well, I have to ask the obvious question. Are you sure the place had commons in it from the start? This isn't as prevalent in Ohio, but down here in Alabama it's not unusual to find lakes where commons never made it in or were systematically taken out (lakes drained and the whole deal).
Actually,it is pretty common in Ohio for lakes to be drained and restocked.The Ohio Division of Wildlife has done it with
several lakes in my area,to rid them of 'undesirables'.And then they turn around 15yrs later and declare the grass carp that
THEY grossly over stocked in these waters,upon filling them back up,the new unwanted residents.
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Commons prefer to lay their eggs in vegetation but is not required for successful spawning.Eggs and fry just have a better
chance of dodging the predators if they are spawned in thick weed.
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Sorry to hear about your Grandmother,Ak.