[Other fish caught while carping?]

would they happen to be sturgeon,keith?

[Grass carp]

the fights ussually are poor,and gets worse the bigger

they are IMO.although they DO have amazing speed,and

when you put that with a good hard run(which they give

here and there)they can almost yank the rod from your hand.i have seen them things come out of the water 4 ft

when hooked,and possibly higher when they get caught in the electric current from a shock boat even if the

fight is rather poor,they still look good on the mat.

[The 2nd twenty comes quickly]

see,i told you they would get more numerous once

you get the first one.

[Deformed carp?]

i have seen a few commons with this,but,MAN! i have seen

SO many grass carp with is problem its unreal.every lake

i have caught grass carp from,i have seen at least one with

this problem.fish of all sizes too.i seen a NICE,28lber caught

last year that had a huge knot at the tail base.i chalk it up

to be birth defects in lake fish.this kind of thing is seen in aquarium fish also.if a fish is kept in too small a tank,or

if the water conditions are poor for long periods it can

cause spinal curves.another factor is a form of TB found in

fish,which i hear can be spread to humans by handling

infected fish.its kind of crazy really.BTW alot of gar get

kinked up like this also.some so bad after a while they will

only swim in circles.

iam still baffled by the numbers of grassers i have seen

with this problem.i wonder if it could be a side effect of the

sterilization process???

[koi?]

100% goldfish

[*New PB Drum* 4.26.04]

nice drum there Stripped,and the sucker is not bad

either i find it interesting that you caught those

fish on the baits you did.corn and bread.i fish for suckers

here and there(mostly white,redhorse)and have only

caught a few on corn.most fall for the live baits ussually.

i have yet to catch a drum,i live 35 miles from Lake Erie

and still have not caught one even though

i have never caught a drum,its good to know that they will

take baits like corn and boilies(who knew?).i guess they

will eat ''anything''

[Reflex rod]

i used a pair of 9' brekley reflex rods for carp.they are good

rods IMO.not too stiff for carpfishing,even though they

are cat rods.they are strongly built rods too(i did however

''blow''one up while spodding )i wish they would come out with the reflex in a black colored blank,or just anything besides white or if they ever did make another color it

would be some ugly red color i bet.

[Captures on Royal Carp bait]

hey,lets see some pics of these salmons when you

get some.

[Giant Grass Carp]

alot of people picks them up by their gills that dosen't

know better,look at the TV shows,they all lift big fish up

by the gills. ever see how those guys lift

muskie by one gill plate theres like a 2 ft gap

between the gill and the fishes body.and they claim

to be fish biologists,ect.

[Keith & Wendy]

ok,i just did some looking around and appear to

have it down now,even though i all ready new

just have too see some more of these guys in person.

[Keith & Wendy]

so,its SM buffs for sure,no blacks or LM.any LM caught

that you know of?

[Keith & Wendy]

yes,definally large buffs but which species?

[Keith & Wendy]

OK,you guys have confused Payara here.i thought

all these buffs being posted and caught were small

mouths so some are large mouths,or possibly

blacks????iam confused here.are any of these fish posted

on any thread reguarding buffs been large mouths???

i have never come across any LM buffs in person

but according to photos the mouth IS much larger

than the SM.with the SM buff's mouth being almost

identical to a common carp???PLEASE somebody break

the id down to me i don't want to be wrong in id-ing

a species here

[Keith & Wendy]

NICE!!!!

[Keith & Wendy]

those are nice fish,i like the blueish look to them.

[Royal Carp Day in Austin]

Keith, wheres the 50's?did i miss them in another thread?

[Cali carp record busted?]

Keith,yeah my first instinct when hereing of

a 40+being caught by bass anglers is grass carp

unless there is a picture,ussually,at least in my area

it is a grasser of some giant size they catch.plus

iam not familiar with the water,but the word ''slough''

made me think grass carp,as i have heard of /seen

grass carp in canals in CA but in the southern part

of the state.

[Cali carp record busted?]

i bet money its a grass carp

[Royal Carp Day in Austin]

its un-freakin-believeable! i guess it pays to

have a good teacher and a good water.

[Royal Carp Day in Austin]

wheres the pics Keith?????

[How long have you been carping???]

been chasing the carps almost always for 11 years.if

i was not trying to catch a carp i was fishing for other

''rough'' fish like grass carp(which were more common than commons when i was growing up)chubs(one of my favorites to fish for )smaller suckers like

redhorse,white,quailbacks,ect. about 5-6 years ago

i developed an interest in buffalo,after reading ''fishing

for buffalo''but my area lacks waters that contain alot

of them

[BFC]

i havent seen it,but i would think it to be grass carp

with length like that.i wish the in-fisherman people

would get the weights of these fish and the proper

name of the fish.they do it every year.

[Good & bad day]

iam suprised the hook did not pull first with

useing that braid.i have snapped rods before,

never on a fish,but on snags.it sucks.

nice fish though,man.BTW how warm is it

in Mn looks all warm in that picture

[New Buff record]

they had that on the news,and i believe it was gutted

[Royal Carp Day in Austin]

BTW,whats the fight like of a fish that

large,buff i mean.is it harder or lighter

than carp of same size?

i knew it was possible to catch big fish on

small baits