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    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

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    theres are a tonne of whips over in asia........they can be replaced for a fraction of the cost and time it takes to replace one here. I also think our fish are bigger since we practice catch and release......I have rarely seen videos of asian whip anglers landing large commons in comparison to the north american carp............ its just practical fish care to be concerned about breaking a whip in half and watching half swim away no? some countries dont care about the fish........its a food source and thats it! :)

    I also think the amount of whip anglers here is so minimal that the size of fish, potential for breakage, and lack of reasonably priced sources leaves many in a situation that its just not sensable to spend $350 bucks......especially when a 20+ fish has so much water to use to its advantage.......you could easily need 100 feet of "safety rope" to deal with the initial runs these fish give........

    You definitely have some points there. Completely forgot that carp is often eaten over there. :)

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted · Edited by Jeongyonghwa

    You know what I find kind of funny in regards to whips breaking? It seems like North American anglers (and of course the relatively few European guys who are slowly getting addicted to this style of fishing) have this constant fear of the whip breaking when they hook into a large fish. :P You guys are fretting over this while Asian anglers don't seem to really give any serious concern about it even when it's a grass carp on the end of the line. I mean shouldn't Asian anglers here and Asia have more concern about the whips breaking as they are generally the mid to upper range quality stuff; thus being a bit more pricier than what you guys are willing to pay for?

    With all the Euro gear available that guarantees to land fish, maybe it's making you guys a bit soft lol. Perhaps it's time to toughen up by going back to the stick and line method...no aids allowed :swimminfish:

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

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    two feet was taken off, not snapped...........I had to take off two feet to elasticate it, which is where the poor choice came into play :) - I shouldnt have elasticated it, but I knew I would fish an area that would possibly produce a larger fish and I didnt want to risk the whip since I had never fished one before. As for the whips in question, I get them from Alibaba.com..........similar type site, with tonnes of floats and whips etc.......you can get it direct shipped for next to nothing. The quality of whips you can find on the site are only limited by the effort you put into your search........ as for the floats, they have a lot of nice floats but I have been dabling with making my own so I doubt ill get any from the site regardless of how amazing some of them are!

    Ah okay, I read it in the wrong. Thought you actually got it snapped off lol. But please do take some pics of it sometime, would love to see what it looks like elasticized.

    I've browsed at Alibaba quite a while back and back then it was mainly large orders and very ambiguous English descriptions of what type of whips they are (ie. Taiwanese whips...does this refer to the style of fishing or for herabuna/crucian fishing??).

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted · Edited by Jeongyonghwa

    Most European whips that are available in the European and North American market are not designed to catch large fish. I'm pretty sure if you chat with European anglers they would laugh at the notion of a whip hauling in a medium-large sized carp :P

    My best advice if you want to fish like how they do in the videos is to pay a bit more for a better quality whip. I don't know where you guys are ordering/buying your whips from but I personally would just buy them from online stores or have someone in Asia to buy them. Since most of you guys probably wouldn't go near a $200 whip, the best place to buy whips that are $60-150 range would be from Taobao.com which is like eBay. You would have to use a Taobao agent who would help with paypal and international shipping, but the bonus of this is they communicate directly in English with you on what you are specifically looking for. And if you need the Chinese characters for "carp fishing rod" feel free to let me know as I can email them to you (the board is not encoded to support Asian text).

    :)

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted · Edited by Jeongyonghwa

    now is there a fail safe to keep fish safety in mind, like a hook link that is much lighter in breaking strength, so if need be you can clamp down on the rop to snap off the link..........id feel guilty with a fish swimming around with a whip or even a half a whip. I elasticated my first whip and kinda regret doing it since I lost about two feet off my whip..............poor choice on my part.........

    Did you ever get any pics of your whip? Prior to it getting two feet snapped off.

    exactly...........whether im whip fishing, pin fishing or bolt rigging, I try to always use a lighter link. For pin fishing and whip, ill use 8 lb with a 6.5 link in flouro........ regardless, an interesting technique...........leaves me to wonder, if you know there are large fish that could potentially break a 300 dollar whip, and you need to use a rope to save the whip, why wouldnt you just use a bolo and a pin, or a match rod/spinning outfit?

    The whips in the videos are generally $60-150. Here's the thing, whips sold for the Asian market (not export) are generally produced based off of Japanese fishing technology and design; so there's kind of this mental guarantee that it won't break easily. Then there's the whole "you get what you pay for," which does hold true when you compare a $20 whip to a $80 whip. You also have to factor in whether you are getting a whip that is specifically made (stated on the packaging) for carp (North American and European sense). I've seen whips here are that very flimsy and very low quality and to be honest I do expect them to break easily.

    Now as for the $300 whips, there are two factors at play. The first, you are paying for technology that is specifically tailored to taming carp (NA and Euro sense). And as usual, the longer the whip the higher the price. The second factor is most $300 whips are generally specifically made for crucian (herabuna) fishing where the likeliness of breakage is very low. Materials for herabuna/crucian whips are generally far superior than the rest as it incorporates salt water fishing technology, but also the price reflects the made in Japan is top quality.

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted

    So some of you had asked back in the old Korean whip fishing thread (started by Hammercarp) about how to deal with large fish that can easily snap the whip in half. I mentioned that in China they have a rope attached to the butt of the whip that would allow the angler to release the whip as a safety measure. It just so happens that Mr. Dmitry has a really clear video of him using this technique at 5:34

    http://youtu.be/SoLGBC9NHdk

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted · Edited by Jeongyonghwa

    I still have lots to learn :blush: catching on the float is one of my goals. As well as making huge batches of boilies like you :swimminfish:

    Learning never stops and that's the reason why these threads exist :) I think one of the most challenging things about float fishing is having the ability to just sit patiently and watch a float. With so much technology being poured into fishing nowadays and giving us bite alarms, sturdy rod holders, and bivvies/tents; there isn't much incentive anymore to just sit and watch your gear when you can go have a nap, wander about or go on youtube via your phone.

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted · Edited by Jeongyonghwa

    Glad you guys enjoy the videos :)

    On a slightly different note, I've come across a site called Rakuten where you can purchase Asian whips. Some vendors have direct international shipping but some don't. The ones that do not have international, you can get around this by using the third party shipper offered on the site (provides a Japanese address). I've come across the whip that I sold to a CAG member, I've gone through the listings of which ones are actually for carp and given you guys the direct links to them so it's less daunting.

    Shimano (Carp - Super Hard)

    (3.6m || 12') http://global.rakute.../4969363323132/

    (4.5m || 15') http://global.rakute.../4969363323149/

    (6.3m || 21') http://global.rakute.../4969363323163/

    Shimano (Carp - Hard)

    (3.6m || 12') http://global.rakute.../4969363323088/

    (4.5m || 15') http://global.rakute.../4969363323095/

    (5.4m || 18') http://global.rakute.../4969363323101/

    (6.3m || 21') http://global.rakute.../4969363323118/

    (7.2m || 24') http://global.rakute.../4969363323125/

    Here's the link to the main Rakuten search page:

    http://global.rakute...9; 鯉&tl=

    硬調 = Super Hard

    鯉 = Carp

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted · Edited by Jeongyonghwa

    Hey guys, it's been quite a while since I logged on. Hopefully everyone is doing well. Anyways since winter is about to arrive and its that time when you start thinking about next season. The wait might be long but hopefully these couple of videos will keep you entertained :)

    -I don't know if these were filmed by any members here, but if so I would like give thanks in advance on the good job!

    Sail Outdoors

    in Ontario

    Posted

    Hey guys,

    I just got back from visiting a new outdoors store called SAIL at Hwy 7 and 400. They're a Quebec based company that is rapidly expanding into Ontario. They're kind of a hybrid between Mountain Co-op and Bass Pro Shop but the the distinction of carrying carrying some carp tackle like bank sticks, bite alarms, accessories for tying rigs, weights...etc. Maybe this would be of interest for some of you :)

    -they also sell 16' telescopic whips for $20 :P

    Asian Fishing Gear & Techniques ~ Your Go-To Guide And Discussion

    in Ontario

    Posted

    Hey guys, sorry been busy with summer work so haven't been able to come on here as frequently as I would like to.

    The following photos are of the Asian cousin of the typical European waggler, as you can see they're much more slimmed and in shape :P These floats are typically found in both match settings and the everyday Joe's fishing gear (well in Asia that is). The ones you see here actually have a thicker tip than others for visibility. I personally find these much more delicate than Korean floats. So far I've only fished with these on a whip, but I'm really interested in trying them out on a spinning setup soon :)

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