My problem is I have never seen carp tailing or feeding anyway except bread on the surface. I'm 71 years old and have been fishing for many species, including carp, since I was 14 years old. I live in Northern California on Clear Lake but lived many years in the San Francisco Bay Area. I know I could catch them with a bread fly after feeding the ducks but they're making it illegal to feed ducks just about everywhere in N. Ca. now. I guess I could do a bit of illegal chumming and then fish blind over the area but I've heard this is a rough road to take. My fly fishing skills are not great but I used to be able to get a shad fly out to 80 feet or so with a 30 foot shooting head and 20 lb mono for shooting line. I can only guess the weight rods and line we used in those days as they used a letter system to rate them. I'm going to guess I was using a 9 or 10 weight rig most of the time but I had a larger rod that was probably a 12 weight for catching stripers. I never used a full length fly line then, only 30 foot shooting heads from Scientific Anglers. I bought a little 8 foot 6/7 weight rod with a 6 wt floating line and started playing around but haven't had any success yet. I guess I'd have to take a long drive to the Columbia River for a chance at success but that's probably not going to happen anytime soon. Keep on catching those bronze battlers..