Hello fellow carpers, Tracy here. Thanks for the response King. That's some of the info that I think is needed to "right the ship". I think CAG was moving too fast and lost balance. I believe it's was meant to support and lead to getting Carp the title of "sportfish". Most American fishermaen don't have a clue what their missing and for some that's a good thing. Keeping it to ourselves doesn't serve that purpose. Changing the minds that have done what they do for so long is not going to be easy. The rest of the world is right about carp. It's the individual member that has the ability to alter that thinking one conversation at a time. King even though your not a member doesn't mean that your not wanted or appreciated. Just by fishing for them supports the sport. If Americans spent the same amount of time, money and effort that's spent on "other" gamefish in their upkeep, the fishing for carp would be even better than the memories you have stored. I think "We" can do this but most likely one person at time. The struggle continues. Just my 2 cents. Later