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Are you all still arguing over this :D - give it a rest people. :D

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I was baffled by this too. I don't even know which one of us should be insulted.

Paul - I think :D neither of us should be insulted.

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Keith

We aren't arguing.

We are discussing with civility. There has been no personal attacks on this thread yet.

Some of us are aware of the ill feeling towards certain tackle dealers and the reasons why.

It appears as though I may be the only one who has a problem with it, so I'll shut it!!

I'll just bombard the other threads with prices then!! :D

Pat

You seem to finding it difficult to take off your mods hat!! :D:D:D We know why you wouldn't buy from Royal. :D:D:D

Perhaps the instructions on how to post links is on it's way! :D:D

Phone

Keep it up man, you are getting better all the time! :D

Karl :D

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Pat

You seem to finding it difficult to take off your mods hat!! :D  :D  :D  We know why you wouldn't buy from Royal. :D  :D  :D

Perhaps  the instructions on how to post links is on it's way! 

I can say my piece just like everyone else on this forum can.....

why do you need instructions on how to post links? You have one in your signature? Anyway its really pretty simple, just press the button that says "http://" paste your link in, and then name it, and that's it. Let me know if you have any trouble with that :D

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Pat

Nice to see you are replying .... :D:D ...unlike when you were a mod and didn't reply to any P.M I sent to you.......... :D

So what's your beef with Royal.......let's have it out in the open instead of pi$$ing around with your little digs when ever you get the chance.

Don't hold back just say it.........make your mark in History............ :D:D:D

By the way where is your review on the bivvy you bought.....??????

BOROFC :D

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Pat

You seem to finding it difficult to take off your mods hat!! :D  :D  :D  We know why you wouldn't buy from Royal. :D  :D  :D

Perhaps  the instructions on how to post links is on it's way! 

I can say my piece just like everyone else on this forum can.....

why do you need instructions on how to post links? You have one in your signature? Anyway its really pretty simple, just press the button that says "http://" paste your link in, and then name it, and that's it. Let me know if you have any trouble with that :D

I know you can Pat, it was posted tongue in cheek, I am sorry you thought otherwise. :D

Thanks for the details on how to do the link thing, I didn't do mine, another ex-mod did it for me. :D

Now I know I will be definately posting some.

As I said before I'm dropping the subject now, I accept that you cannot post prices here, in the area where people come to look for them. I just think it's a crazy thing, but that's me!

Karl :D

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Keith

We aren't arguing.

We are discussing with civility.  There has been no personal attacks on this thread yet.

Some of us are aware of the ill feeling towards certain tackle dealers and the reasons why.

Karl - by now you should know that the personal attack rule does not to certain people :D:D:D, neither do the common principles of courtesy and apologising when you make erroneous statements.

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Keith

Now is the perfect opportunity to post a link in the thread, trouble is I tried and it didn't work!! :D

Could it be because the thread I was linking to was a locked thread? O ris it beacuse I am just a tw*t who has no idea what he is doing on a PC? :D

Phone

The above two lines were laid as a lead in for you to come back with one of your witty sayings!! Me and you show take our show on the road!! :D

Karl :D

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Thanks for the details on how to do the link thing, I didn't do mine, another ex-mod did it for me. 
No problem.......
As I said before I'm dropping the subject now

Good :D Me too :D

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Pat

Nice to see you are replying .... :D  :D ...unlike when you were a mod and didn't reply to any P.M I sent to you.......... :D

So what's your beef with Royal.......let's have it out in the open instead of pi$$ing around with your little digs when ever you get the chance.

Don't hold back just say it.........make your mark in History............ :D  :D  :D

By the way where is your review on the bivvy you bought.....??????

BOROFC  :D

Pat

I see yet again you fail to reply................ :D:D

BOROFC :D

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Pat

Nice to see you are replying .... :D  :D ...unlike when you were a mod and didn't reply to any P.M I sent to you.......... :D

So what's your beef with Royal.......let's have it out in the open instead of pi$$ing around with your little digs when ever you get the chance.

Don't hold back just say it.........make your mark in History............ :D  :D  :D

By the way where is your review on the bivvy you bought.....??????

BOROFC  :D

Pat

I see yet again you fail to reply................ :D:D

BOROFC :D

Oh give it a rest Chris for ****s sake.

On another topic I have some instant coffee for sale for $500.

RickyB :D

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Hi All -

As this section is restricted to NACA advertisers, I am open to the idea of allowing prices to be posted. The mods should talk it over as should the NACA advertisers. My original reason for requesting that prices not be stated was that we didn't want to turn the forum into a defacto price catalog. I guess I thought commercial concerns would enjoy directing people to their websites, phone numbers, points of sale, whatever. The policy is not a biased attempt to quiet one group or another.

The private internet has long held a dim view of commercialization. In the past, as a moderator, I received complaints when various business concerns posted things like hooks 10 for a $1! I felt that creation of this section could lessen the friction between those who don't want to be bombarded with offers and those who are seeking pricing info. It also has the benefit of keeping the CAG forum out of legal disputes between buyers and sellers. Imagine, Joe Blow Tackle makes a typo and offers Shimano Thunnus for $29.99 instead of $299.99. Next thing you know their is a legal issue. Either from the disgruntled customer or an unpaid merchant. I'd rather not bother with that hassle.

Right or wrong, the rule of No Prices is the rule. Keith graciously removed the price. If any other posts contain prices, point it out to a mod, and similar action will be taken. It's not a matter of favoritism or the opposite thereof. That's the straight scoop. It is rather amusing how quickly conspiracy theories develop over something so simple.

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like special or new items..because unless you are ordering new tackle everyday you will never see there new items unless you go to every site every day..then maybe we can all get some deals or atleast see whats a good deal or new item..

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The mods should talk it over as should the NACA advertisers.

Shouldn't the USERS of the forum have a say as well.

IMO, there's already WAY too much commercialism on the forum. Price listing would pretty much put it over the top. Anyone who is interested in how much something costs can click on one of the ever multiplying links in peoples signatures or the company representative can put a link in their posting.

Just a thought but why don't these guys with commerical interests start a forum on their own Websites (where they can list all the prices they want) and leave the rest of us here to discuss fishing without the constant interupution of sales people.

If there absolutely positively has to be price listing I think that the poster should have to pay some sort of fee everytime they list a price. I think enough free advertising goes on here without price listing.

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Pat, I'm with you and dang...wouldn't ya know it...I'm a Mod. :D

Chris, when you post something worth paying attention to, the mods will respond...until then rant away! :D

You want information flow from the commercial interests...join their email list, if they ain't got one, suggest it!

You guys should go into the green bait buisness. You certainly have an overwhelming amount of raw material.

Keith, thank you for cooperating and removing the pricing. I personally have no problem with your questioning the rules so long as you show you're willingness to cooperate as you did. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated.

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Oh gee, is the big, bad mod picking on those poor innocent fellows again? :D

Let's break it down so nobody misses it shall we?

Pat, I'm with you and dang...wouldn't ya know it...I'm a Mod.

A reply to Pat's post with some added commentary to assure him that some of us involved in this discussion he has no part in are of the same mind as he. A reply to a friend and, if anything, a counter to Brian's post...I didn't get any PMs from Brian over it so I'm pretty sure he didn't mind.

Chris, when you post something worth paying attention to, the mods will respond...until then rant away! :D

OK, here we have what is commonly known as a joke; note the cute little guy with his tongue out. What's the matter guys? You've been riding Pat ever since he left the mod position about this "the mods don't reply to my questions" thing. Funny how you don't seem to like it when the shoes finds it's way to the other foot. Let he who is without sin...

You want information flow from the commercial interests...join their email list, if they ain't got one, suggest it!

A response to a comment made in this debate about information flow from commercial sites. I see it as not only relevant but an excellent counter to the issue.

You guys should go into the green bait buisness. You certainly have an overwhelming amount of raw material.

Not a joke, a very tactfully put opinion of the value of your opinion in my opinion. :D (this one is a joke...note that little guy again)

Keith, thank you for cooperating and removing the pricing. I personally have no problem with your questioning the rules so long as you show you're willingness to cooperate as you did. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated.

An honest thank you to Keith for handling the initial problem in a reasonable manner. Thought he deserved one for a change, especially after I fried his butt good by personal email over another matter just recently.

So

All I can conclude from the responses is:

Mods are not allowed to make jokes

Mods are not allowed to support their friends

Mods are not allowed to have an opinion

Mods are not allowed to participate in forum discussion

Mods may not post as anglers/people...they are always mods

Mods must continually kiss your butt to have your respect

Now Rick please, show me where anything I put in my post classified as "moderation"? Did I change anything? Did I trod on anyone's freedom of speech? I have an idea! From now on when I'm posting in my "official moderator" capacity I will post everything in big red print so there's no confusion...how 'bout that? If it's just Todd the dumba$$ hilbilly carp angler talking I'll just type in little black letters...nobody wants to hear from him much anyway. :D

Who is trying to kill free speech the moderator that made this post above or the individual that sent me the email threatening to cause chaos on the boards with his advanced computer talents if I should continue to openly voice my opinions??? I won't do as we've seen some do and post this email but I still have it...makes for a good laugh.

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Chris, when you post something worth paying attention to, the mods will respond...until then rant away!  :D

OK, here we have what is commonly known as a joke; note the cute little guy with his tongue out.  What's the matter guys?  You've been riding Pat ever since he left the mod position about this "the mods don't reply to my questions" thing.  Funny how you don't seem to like it when the shoes finds it's way to the other foot.  Let he who is without sin...

Todd

If it was meant in Jest, I apologise for the P.m I sent you........ :D

Do you mind elaborating on the sentence "Funny how you don't seem to like it when the shoes finds it's way to the other foot. Let he who is without sin...

I have never not replied to a post or P.M......... :D:D:D

Chris :D

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Sure Chris,

When the "meant to be funny but also a bit insulting" comments are thrown your way rather than vice-versa.  That's the shoe on the other foot.

Todd

I can take it all day long............Ohhhhhhhhh Urrrrrrrrrrrr Missus................ :D:D:D

Be prepared I normally give better than I take.................. :D:D:D

Chris :D

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Keith, thank you for cooperating and removing the pricing. I personally have no problem with your questioning the rules so long as you show you're willingness to cooperate as you did. Just wanted you to know it was appreciated.

Todd,

This is actually what I was referring to. I should have been more specific. A while ago things would have been removed from this forum without word or reason. I was congratulating you for contacting Keith and making the change and then thanking him for it afterwards. Moderation isn't always about deleting things and using a heavy hand it is about being fair. Without addressing the issue of whether someone could have a price on this website or not, which appears a debated point, I thought the fact you ASKED someone to do something, they responded and you thanked them was fair moderation. Therefore I indicated this. The rest of the post has no interest for me as it was directed to someone else. I stand by my congratulatory note.

As for the rest of this post, I'll step away. I'm not getting involved with any of that.

RickyB

PS. Sean, you might want to consider a firewall for your computer unless you received the virus in an e-mail. If you don't have one, get one. Even Mac's are open to virus and hacking. If you have high-speed internet connection a firewall (such as Zonealarm) is a must.

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